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We are not responsible for them in any way. * [72]Judge, Jury, and Executioner ([73]Score:2, Interesting) by [74]Cool Hands Leia [75]( 10159653 ) writes: So the Postal Service can just walk around and yank your rights to speech/publish without a trial now? + + [76]Re: ([77]Score:3) by [78]Revek [79]( 133289 ) writes: They have done nothing really. Its still up on tor per Wikipedia. o o # # @ # [80]1 reply beneath your current threshold. o [81]Re: ([82]Score:2) by [83]JackieBrown [84]( 987087 ) writes: Never heard of this until now. Now where I'm going after work # o [85]1 reply beneath your current threshold. + [86]Re: ([87]Score:2) by [88]splutty [89]( 43475 ) writes: Which agencies have which powers is rather.. Weird and historical in the US. o + [90]makes sense ([91]Score:2) by [92]OrangeTide [93]( 124937 ) writes: It makes sense for the USPI to do this given that they operate the main domestic surveillance program in the US. o + [94]Re: ([95]Score:3) by [96]ArchieBunker [97]( 132337 ) writes: But you don't understand. Children could get a hold of these books and see naughty words! o o [98]Re: ([99]Score:2, Informative) by [100]smooth wombat [101]( 796938 ) writes: But you donâ(TM)t understand. Children could get a hold of these books and see naughty words! That's the excuse [102]DeSantis is using [thedailybeast.com] to ban books in Florida libraries. # * [103]It is a hosting issue. ([104]Score:5, Informative) by [105]splutty [106]( 43475 ) writes: on Friday November 04, 2022 @10:06AM ([107]#63024071) They just need to host their DNS records elsewhere. [108]Reply to This [109]Share [110]twitter [111]facebook [112]Share on Google+ [113]Flag as Inappropriate + + [114]Re: ([115]Score:1) by [116]xforce [117]( 1172421 ) writes: Underground DNS: Hold my book... o * [118]The Author's Guild ([119]Score:5, Funny) by [120]muh_freeze_peach [121]( 9622152 ) writes: on Friday November 04, 2022 @10:14AM ([122]#63024095) Shut down libraries. All those books could have been sold to someone! [123]Reply to This [124]Share [125]twitter [126]facebook [127]Share on Google+ [128]Flag as Inappropriate + + [129]Re: ([130]Score:1) by [131]TheReaperD [132]( 937405 ) writes: You jest, but... [133]AG Sends Open Letter Demanding "National Emergency Library" Shut Down. [authorsguild.org] [134]Authors Guild, Inc. v. Google, Inc. [wikipedia.org] The only reason they don't go after public libraries is because they have almost no impact on our society anymore as COVID-19 closed most of the handful that were remaining and they're not likely to re-open, that money having being re-allocated elsewhere and they're not giving it back. So to attack them at this stage would be beating a dead horse and causing a firestorm of cr o o [135]Re:The Author's Guild ([136]Score:4, Informative) by [137]mschuyler [138]( 197441 ) writes: on Friday November 04, 2022 @12:34PM ([139]#63024561) [140]Homepage [141]Journal You are making stuff up. The vast majority of the 16,000 public libraries are open and funded directly by property taxes. Funding was not "re-allocated." In fact, in those libraries that did close temporarily because of Covid, employees were kept on the payroll as they provided books and materials directly to the car window. The statement that "Covud-19 closed the handful that were remaining" makes no sense at all. It's pure fantasy. [142]Reply to This [143]Parent [144]Share [145]twitter [146]facebook [147]Share on Google+ [148]Flag as Inappropriate # o [149]Re: The Author's Guild ([150]Score:2) by [151]Khyber [152]( 864651 ) writes: My husband is a librarian and neither of his libraries shut down or closed. And these are libraries that might see 30 people a week. What nonsense are you spewing? # + [153]Re: ([154]Score:2) by [155]Nrrqshrr [156]( 1879148 ) writes: Surprisingly, this all started on [157]Tik Tok [torrentfreak.com] of all places. Users started using the hashtag #zlibrary to talk about books. I imagine that the new term kicked off its popularity when students were wondering where to get all the expensive books. It seems that the hashtag garnered a little too much attention and tiktok blocked it. 4 days later the site was down. One could wonder if the authorities only discovered zlibrary through the publicity it got when tiktok blocked the hashtag. o o [158]Re: ([159]Score:2) by [160]kyoko21 [161]( 198413 ) writes: This is why the first rule of flight club is to never mention flight club. All the cool stuff went down in the past because it all got popular. Happened to Napster and it happened again to zlibrary. RIP # + [162]Re: ([163]Score:3) by [164]mi [165]( 197448 ) writes: Shut down libraries This misleads a reader to believe, the books in those libraries become unavailable. Which would be a lie. They become unavailable for free... All those books could have been sold to someone! Yes. Content-producers should be paid for the content they produce -- if it is any good. Do you have any objection to this statement? And if it is not good, why would you -- or anyone -- lament it becoming harder to access? o o [166]Re: ([167]Score:2) by [168]Cultureofone [169]( 8969245 ) writes: I don't consider the things I have to pay Ransom to access available. All information belongs to all whoever lived by inheritance and by right as an existing member of this universe. Damn the bastards who withhold everyone's inheritance for selfish gain. # # [170]Re: ([171]Score:3) by [172]mi [173]( 197448 ) writes: All information belongs to all Why limit it to information, normie? Everything belongs to all! The best things in life are free anyway, aren't they? @ @ [174]Re: ([175]Score:2) by [176]Cultureofone [177]( 8969245 ) writes: Because other things are finite, information can be duplicated without depriving others of that information infinitely. - - [178]Re: ([179]Score:2) by [180]mi [181]( 197448 ) writes: Because other things are finite False. Energy, for one, is infinite... And yet, you don't find it immoral, when gas station asks you for money. without depriving others of that information infinitely Goodness gracious, are we back into the Napster discussion? This bullshit's been debunked 20 years ago, kido, look it up... = = [182]Re: ([183]Score:2) by [184]Cultureofone [185]( 8969245 ) writes: I never known a gas station to ask me for money. They have demanded money in exchange for goods in many polite forms and some not so polite with implied threat of artificial targeting by law enforcement. I don't see morality being relevant here. The risks short-term and long-term seem clear enough .it's simply a matter of personal choice and judgment regarding those risks relative to an individual's personal goals for self and environment. No morality needed. * o [186]Re: ([187]Score:1) by [188]0xG [189]( 712423 ) writes: It's not content producers that are not being paid. It's publishing houses. You know, like the RIAA of books... # # [190]Re: ([191]Score:3) by [192]mi [193]( 197448 ) writes: It's not content producers that are not being paid. It's publishing houses Distinction without difference. If the content-producer is entitled to compensation -- which you approve of -- he must be able to sell that entitlement to whoever is willing to pay for it. Which turns the distinction you attempted to make into one without difference. How is this not immediately obvious, is beyond me... You know, like the RIAA of books... Yes, it is exactly the same logic as with music and other entertainment, a @ @ [194]Re: ([195]Score:1) by [196]usedtobestine [197]( 7476084 ) writes: Be careful. Someone might start buying books in southeast Asia, at cover price, to Americans, at that same price, and undercut your publishing houses by 90%. - - [198]Re: ([199]Score:2) by [200]JackieBrown [201]( 987087 ) writes: What's the solution? Charge Southeast Asia US prices? = - [202]Re: ([203]Score:2, Interesting) by [204]dsgrntlxmply [205]( 610492 ) writes: I preferred India editions of textbooks. They were less expensive, but mostly because they tended to be printed on ordinary paper rather than the magazine glossy paper that makes modern textbooks physically heavy. One gotcha: a $220 textbook in solid state physics bought for maybe $60 from India, was missing signatures and had two bound upside down. This class was cancelled anyway, so the defective book did not matter much. = - [206]Re: ([207]Score:1) by [208]mi [209]( 197448 ) writes: and undercut your publishing houses by 90%. Thank you for you concern, but I don't own stock in any publishing house. Except, possibly, indirectly -- via an index fund or some such vehicle. = # [210]Re: ([211]Score:2) by [212]JackieBrown [213]( 987087 ) writes: Who pays the content providers, then? @ @ [214]Re: ([215]Score:2) by [216]DanielRavenNest [217]( 107550 ) writes: Whp pays Lady Gaga for billions of YouTube views? Google does, and ultimately advertisers. She makes most of her money, though, from live shows and merchandise. The YouTube videos are more like ads for her other products, which actually take work to produce. I have about 3,000 physical books. I paid for those, because a physical book has significant cost to produce. Digital copies cost effectively nothing to make, and the overhead is covered by users with their own computers and internet connections. If - o [218]Re: ([219]Score:2) by [220]muh_freeze_peach [221]( 9622152 ) writes: Publishers should pay the Authors for the books sold, yes. Some of those books are even directly sold to Libraries. # o [222]Re: ([223]Score:2) by [224]Cultureofone [225]( 8969245 ) writes: Nothing's available until the financial barriers have been circumvented. Until then there is merely a potential to make it available relative to the individual that wishes access it. # o [226]Re: ([227]Score:1) by [228]zendarva [229]( 8340223 ) writes: Libraries provide books for free. # # [230]Re: ([231]Score:2) by [232]mi [233]( 197448 ) writes: Libraries provide books for free. A false statement. 2-3 Pinocchios. Libraries cost plenty of money -- to someone -- librarians need to be paid. The building of the libraries is not free either, nor is their maintenance. Irrelevant too, because the subject matter is electronic, rather than paper (a.k.a. "dead tree") books. @ o [234]Re: ([235]Score:2) by [236]VeryFluffyBunny [237]( 5037285 ) writes: I remember reading that public libraries actually increase private book sales because they encourage more people to read, so they buy more books too. # * [238]It is a hosting issue ([239]Score:2) by [240]nhtshot [241]( 198470 ) writes: I'd say that losing your DNS qualifies as a hosting issue. Both takes can be simultaneously accurate. + * + + [242]Re: ([243]Score:2) by [244]DarkRookie2 [245]( 5551422 ) writes: Site where you download ebooks. o + [246]Re: And.. what is Z-library? ([247]Score:5, Informative) by [248]Martin Blank [249]( 154261 ) writes: on Friday November 04, 2022 @10:39AM ([250]#63024187) [251]Homepage [252]Journal A source of ebooks and articles otherwise mostly available only through purchase. Probably the most complete source of pirated books online. [253]Reply to This [254]Parent [255]Share [256]twitter [257]facebook [258]Share on Google+ [259]Flag as Inappropriate o o [260]Re: ([261]Score:3) by [262]foxtyke [263]( 766988 ) writes: Probably the only thing that got them truly hemmed up was the Piracy as a Service model, although I'm still trying to grasp the logic in how the US Postal Inspection Service came to be the lead in this whole matter. Is this the new route around overburdened bureaucracy of the other 3LAs? # + [264]Re:And.. what is Z-library? ([265]Score:5, Funny) by [266]ichthus [267]( 72442 ) writes: on Friday November 04, 2022 @10:43AM ([268]#63024193) [269]Homepage Z library is Z place verr you go to read Z books, dummkopf! [270]Reply to This [271]Parent [272]Share [273]twitter [274]facebook [275]Share on Google+ [276]Flag as Inappropriate o o [277]Re: ([278]Score:2) by [279]ichthus [280]( 72442 ) writes: Oof. Sorry, I forgot some of you say "Zed". # # [281]Re: ([282]Score:2) by [283]OzPeter [284]( 195038 ) writes: Oof. Sorry, I forgot some of you say "Zed". Zed's dead baby, Zed's dead @ + [285]Re: ([286]Score:2) by [287]fph il quozientatore [288]( 971015 ) writes: A "popular ebook repository". It's literally in the first ten words of TFS. o o [289]Re: ([290]Score:2) by [291]greytree [292]( 7124971 ) writes: So a grownup would write the Headline as: "US Authorities Seize Domain Names of Ebook Repository 'Z-Library'" Would that fucking kill the 'editors', whose literal job it is to do this ? # # [293]Re: ([294]Score:2) by [295]Diddlbiker [296]( 1022703 ) writes: You're confusing "headline" with "article." The latter explains things if the editors do their job; the headline should tell you if the article is worth reading or not, not be the article. @ @ [297]Re: ([298]Score:2) by [299]greytree [300]( 7124971 ) writes: The headline should tell you if the story is worth reading or not by briefly summarising it. It should not a make you read the story to find out the basic facts of what it is about. That is what clickbait does. So in a headline like "A does X to B", the reader should know *or be told explicitly* who A is, who B is and what X is. ( I am pretty sure the SloShdat Oditers don't *deliberately* write vague headlines - they don't care about their jobs enough to bother with that. ) - # [301]Really? Is that a what a grown up would do? ([302]Score:2) by [303]Petersko [304]( 564140 ) writes: Because I'm pretty sure it's grownups who are telling you that, "you won't believe what happens next!" @ @ [305]Re: ([306]Score:2) by [307]greytree [308]( 7124971 ) writes: True. "You won't believe who the US Authorities have shut down now!" - * [309]Priorities... ([310]Score:2) by [311]rickb928 [312]( 945187 ) writes: I'd rather think our law enforcement agencies can multitask sufficiently to do two things at once, but I also suspect them in all things. So what did Z-Library publish (probably recently) that offended those in power? Other than the publishers, after all, copyright infringement is still a popular avocation. + + [313]Re: ([314]Score:2) by [315]DanielRavenNest [316]( 107550 ) writes: They stocked everything, literally millions of books and magazine articles. There are still other mirror sites: [317]https://libgen.rs/book/index.p... [libgen.rs] o * [318]We don't need no stinkin' domain names ([319]Score:4, Informative) by [320]GameboyRMH [321]( 1153867 ) writes: <[322]gameboyrmh@@@gmail...com> on Friday November 04, 2022 @10:45AM ([323]#63024209) [324]Journal Backup address: [325]http://zlibrary24tuxziyiyfr7zd... [zlibrary24...2fad.onion] [326]Reply to This [327]Share [328]twitter [329]facebook [330]Share on Google+ [331]Flag as Inappropriate + * [332]Alt domain system? ([333]Score:1) by [334]jago25_98 [335]( 566531 ) writes: Isn't there an alternative domain for them using handshake or unstoppable? + * [336]That's a shame. ([337]Score:2) by [338]Petersko [339]( 564140 ) writes: Chalk it up along side of What.cd, which was the best such place I ever had access to. I won't claim that I bought everything that I downloaded from either site - that would be a complete lie. But... there are dozens of books on my bookshelves that started their lives as Z-library downloads. Use case: cookbooks. I love cookbooks. But I need to know that the recipes inside them are actually reasonably executable before I plunk down my money. Otherwise they're curiosities. + + [340]Re:That's a shame. ([341]Score:5, Insightful) by [342]drinkypoo [343]( 153816 ) writes: <[344]drink@hyperlogos.org> on Friday November 04, 2022 @11:06AM ([345]#63024289) [346]Homepage [347]Journal This is what copyright holders fear most -- you will find out without spending money that their material is not worth paying for. Studies show time and again that downloaders buy more media, but they are afraid it won't be theirs because theirs is crap [348]Reply to This [349]Parent [350]Share [351]twitter [352]facebook [353]Share on Google+ [354]Flag as Inappropriate o o [355]Re: ([356]Score:2) by [357]rsilvergun [358]( 571051 ) writes: Yep. This. The goal is to monopolize content in general. So that if you want to consume content of any kind (books, TV, movies, games, whatever) you have to come to them. # o [359]Re: ([360]Score:1) by Anonymous Coward writes: This is what copyright holders fear most â" you will find out without spending money that their material is not worth paying for. Studies show time and again that downloaders buy more media, but they are afraid it won't be theirs because theirs is crap I've seen the exact same trend with video games, publishers being terrified of any gameplay showing up online and striking out with takedown requests and the like. For the longest time practically every game I've ever bought was a direct result of seeing it being played by one of a handful of people on youtube. My 1200+ steam library probably has 10 games in total that are excluded from that practice. These days, with far less time to spend watching such things, I've had to streamline the whole process to take # # [361]Re: ([362]Score:2) by [363]Petersko [364]( 564140 ) writes: I sort of agree... but the problem with so much immediate scrutiny is that a "rating" - often even before release - of, say, 7.5, can be the death knell for actual profitability. It's harder and harder to justify taking a risk of producing anything not guaranteed to either ride a nostalgia wave, or be a perfect knockout. @ @ - - [365]Re: ([366]Score:2) by [367]Petersko [368]( 564140 ) writes: I agree, a complete media blackout would be ridiculous, and they would deserve to fail utterly. But in truth, I myself do shortlist a lot of things based on aggregation figures. There's too much to choose from. I don't bother with TV shows under 75% on RT, unless they come referred through a really trusted friend. It's not that everything great gets high marks, or that dogshit doesn't also sneak into the upper tier... it does. But it's a useful triage in a world of overplentiful media. I certainly don't both = @ [369]1 reply beneath your current threshold. o [370]Re: ([371]Score:3) by [372]OzPeter [373]( 195038 ) writes: This is what copyright holders fear most -- you will find out without spending money that their material is not worth paying for. Studies show time and again that downloaders buy more media, but they are afraid it won't be theirs because theirs is crap The last bit of software I bought, I bought because I could download a fully functional free trial first. I used it for a bit and then decided that it fitted my needs near perfectly. So I happily bought it. # + [374]Re: ([375]Score:2) by [376]laxguy [377]( 1179231 ) writes: man.. What.CD... I miss that place :') o o [378]Re: ([379]Score:2) by [380]Petersko [381]( 564140 ) writes: I've never seen any place before or since that had better curation, quality, and user-policed standards. # # [382]Re: ([383]Score:2) by [384]laxguy [385]( 1179231 ) writes: completely agree! and I was a part of some pretty well known "scene" sites. What.cd also had an amazing community in which you could ask for advise, recommendations, playlists, rips of specific songs in specific formats.. ugh.. that place was utopia @ * + * [386]"hosting issue" ([387]Score:2) by [388]MachineShedFred [389]( 621896 ) writes: Yeah, the "hosting issue" is that your hosting company was served with a court order to hand your shit over to the government and lock you out. + + [390]Re: ([391]Score:2) by [392]DarkRookie2 [393]( 5551422 ) writes: It is a hosting issue. They aren't wrong. o * [394]Winners and losers ([395]Score:2) by [396]pereOlthwaite [397]( 4466407 ) writes: I'm quite pleased on behalf of Pragmatic Bookshelf, seeing as their bottom line must have been taking quite a hit off of that thing. And a little bit sad for Packt Publishing, seeing as obviously nobody is going to read any of their stuff anymore. + * [398]Z-Lib to Bookshelf Purchases ([399]Score:3) by [400]Petersko [401]( 564140 ) writes: on Friday November 04, 2022 @12:36PM ([402]#63024571) Momofuku The French Laundry Cookbook Sauces, Classical and Contemporary Fourth Edition New Native Kitchen Thai Food The French Laundry Cookbook There are lots more. Those are the most recent. Historically I'm the ideal media consumer. I've bought upwards of a thousand movies, many twice, a few three times (dvd/bluray/hd) and maybe even some back to VHS. I've easily bought 2000 cds/cassettes/records. I have a large number of books, even after divesting all of the paperbacks. Books, though, are the last remaining bastion for me for physical media. I don't want to splash food on my iPad, and I don't trust a clean cookbook. I'll be sad if it goes away completely. However, I agree that there are plenty of people who don't buy books, declare them not worth the asking price, consume them anyway and get utility from them, never contribute, and feel no remorse - in fact, feel entitled. Those people are pricks. [403]Reply to This [404]Share [405]twitter [406]facebook [407]Share on Google+ [408]Flag as Inappropriate + + [409]Re: Z-Lib to Bookshelf Purchases ([410]Score:2) by [411]dunkelfalke [412]( 91624 ) writes: The French Laundry Cookbook must be really good if you bought it twice. o o [413]Re: ([414]Score:2) by [415]Petersko [416]( 564140 ) writes: Hah - no. Just buy it once. # o [417]Re: ([418]Score:2) by [419]dsgrntlxmply [420]( 610492 ) writes: It is large and heavy. Two copies are required, one at each end of the bookshelf, lest the shelf become imbalanced. # o [421]Re: ([422]Score:2) by [423]NoWayNoShapeNoForm [424]( 7060585 ) writes: The French Laundry Cookbook must be really good if you bought it twice. 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