Subj : space oddity (fixes)
To   : Tommi Koivula
From : Nicholas Boel
Date : Sun Apr 21 2024 07:04:42

Hello Tommi,

On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 14:09:26 GMT, you wrote:

 NB>>> So, if HotdogEd doesn't support format=flowed, wouldn't it be
 NB>>> better to use 'flowed=off'?

 NB>>> Or while using HotdogEd with flowed=off, it still wraps at the 72/79
 NB>>> columns set by jam/smapinntpd, which then HotdogEd would still
 NB>>> wrap the text early because it doesn't have that many columns on the
 NB>>> screen?

 TK>> In my phone screen the width is about 58 characters. So it wraps
 TK>> first at 58, then at 79. :(

 TK>> The weird thing is that using a "real" nntp server this is not
 TK>> happening...

 TK> Quote test hotdoged WendzelNNTPd.

Both of your quotes went way past 79 characters. I had to reflow them manually so they looked ok. I didn't bother with CTRL-R in TB because they were all mashed together with initials so I figured it would be worse.

So it seems that when you write with a format=flowed newsreader (ie: Thunderbird), it is indeed one long line (or at least that's how it is stored in the message base, and shown to another format=flowed client. Then when quoted by HotdogEd, it remains one long line (which shouldn't happen to quoted text). I think quoted text should probably still be reflowed to within the 72-79 character limit to stay backwards compatible - Especially when adding initials, etc. However, the newly written text can be one long line in which the next reader's software would fit it into their screen dimentions.

I think jam/smapinntpd reflows the quoted text until it can't. Every time a quote is quoted again, the quote characters + initials keep moving to the right, lengthening the original line, and then when there is not enough space left, it will wrap some of the text on to the next line, without reflowing it, because I don't think it knows how to reflow initials. This may just be a smartquote issue, or maybe not. Just what I've noticed.

Not sure why HotdogEd is wrapping at 58 and 79, though. Could that just be a screen length issue in HotdogEd, since you did mention when you turn the screen sideways it displays better.

Just wondering if HotdogEd is defaulted to wrapping at 79 characters, but on a phone turned vertical you don't actually have that many characters. Have you tried HotdogEd on a tablet or something with a bigger screen?

Regards,
Nick

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