Subj : space oddity (fixes)
To   : Nicholas Boel
From : Carlos Navarro
Date : Sun Apr 21 2024 21:08:32

20 Apr 2024 11:52, you wrote to me:

 NB>>> Wouldn't '/nowrap' just be 'flowed=on', which would then leave
 NB>>> the formatting to HotdogEd, which doesn't seem to be doing so
 NB>>> properly?

 CN>> HotdogEd (like may other newsreaders) doesn't support
 CN>> format=flowed, so it doesn't join the wrapped lines with trailing
 CN>> space.

 NB> So, if HotdogEd doesn't support format=flowed, wouldn't it be better
 NB> to use 'flowed=off'?

In principle it would be better, like with any newsreader that doesn't support f=f, so that stuffed spaces are not displayed. Other than that, there should be no difference.

In HotdogEd it doesn't really matter, as it doesn't display consecutive spaces e.g. used for indentation (you can't view ASCII art properly unless you select "View raw article").

 NB> Or while using HotdogEd with flowed=off, it still wraps at the 72/79
 NB> columns set by jam/smapinntpd, which then HotdogEd would still wrap
 NB> the text early because it doesn't have that many columns on the
 NB> screen?

Yes, but it does the same with both flowed off and on (format=flowed and format=fixed look almost identical on readers that don't support f=f). If you use it in horizontal view, or on a larger screen like a tablet, it looks better.

 NB> Both of these look fine on Thunderbird (with flowed=on), as well as
 NB> tin (with flowed on and off), and slrn (with flowed on), and I'm still
 NB> unsure format=flowed is supported in either of the last two mentioned.

I think we had seen that tin does support f=f, at least it removed stuffed spaces. Does it wrap paragraphs at more than 72 chars, or are they adjusted to the screen width?

Also, what about slrn?

 NB> Maybe tin and slrn can deal with incoming format=flowed, but just
 NB> don't post that way..?

It may be that they send paragraphs as long lines, instead of breaking them into several lines with soft-wrapping trailing spaces as in format=flowed. Smapi/JamNNTPd properly handles both formats when posting to the messagebase.

 NB> So is it a HotdogEd problem that you're looking to come up with a work
 NB> around for, specifically?

No, it may be good for other newsreaders too. If I'm not mistaken, Smapi/JamNNTPd would work like other NNTP servers do.

Carlos

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