Subj : space oddity (fixes)
To   : Carlos Navarro
From : Nicholas Boel
Date : Tue Apr 23 2024 19:10:34

Hello Carlos,

On Tue, Apr 23 2024 19:46:04 +0000, you wrote:

 CN> No. It's just that it doesn't support f=f's soft wraps. A "real" long
 CN> line is wrapped at screen width.

Yes, and then ends up with only one quote character before the first line of the paragraph?

 NB>> I tested tin on the tin nntp server that contained very old messages.
 NB>> However, this was the only time I saw paragraphs adjusted to the
 NB>> screen width. Anything that has come through jam/smapinntpd has been
 NB>> wrapped at 72-79 characters.

 CN> So it has partial f=f support, as it seems it doesn't recognize soft wraps.

Yes, this is true for both tin and slrn. However, there is an option in both to remove trailing spaces at the end of lines. So, it seems it may have been known about, however, there is no function to re-flow the lines.

 NB>> Some clients probably don't understand the 'soft-wrapping trailing
 NB>> spaces', or don't care to put them back together to re-form long
 NB>> lines, but can handle long lines themselves just fine. Am I
 NB>> understanding what you are describing here, now?

 CN> Yes!
 CN> Thunderbird and Seamonkey do, but most others don't.

I've been noticing this, also. This has become kind of a pain in the arse. 2 nntp servers and 4 clients, and everything acts differently in combination. :(

So, I think the real way nntp servers handle it is to not mess with the paragraph at all. One long line. However, there is (or used to be) nntp "etiquette". Slrn and tin both warn you that what you wrote is too long, and that it should be shortened with your editor to <80 columns. Basically they're telling you to hard wrap with your editor (which is something I won't do). ;)

Jam/Smapinntpd has helped this quite a bit, so that most any editor can be used and not really affect the outcome.

So if HotdogEd is your only current worry, maybe you could add some kind of user option to change WRAP_WIDTH to 50 and LINE_WIDTH to 58 or something in order to fit on your phone screen. But then again, it's abandonware. lol

Regards,
Nick

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