Subj : US government says compan
To   : Arelor
From : August Abolins
Date : Sun Jan 05 2025 12:52:00

Hello Arelor!

 A> These sort of rules exist in order to dogpile charges.

 A> Say there is some guy you dislike who sells unlicensed
 A> icecreams. You open an investigation and start digging up
 A> dirt. It turns out his icecream refrigerator was built
 A> using old (outdated) regulations and in addition he has an
 A> account with a dropbox-like provider from a banned country,
 A> where he uploads his billing and accounting docs. Suddenly
 A> you have soooo much more material to jail this guy, for
 A> soooo much longer than just selling icecreams without a
 A> local license.

BUT.. the summary of the DOJ rule seems to *allow* business  
with those countries:

"It also doesn't broadly prohibit US citizens from "engaging in
commercial transactions, including exchanging financial and
other data as part of the sale of commercial goods and services
with countries of concern or covered persons, or impose
measures aimed at a broader decoupling of the substantial
consumer, economic, scientific, and trade relationships that
the United States has with other countries."

So.. that sounds like "business" wrt goods is OK.

It seems that the issue is primarily about the reselling of  
personal/private/identification data only:

"Once the rule is implemented, Americans' personal data will no  
longer be "permitted to be sold to hostile foreign powers,  
whether through outright purchase or other means of commercial  
access," Olsen added."

And then there is the "exception".   :|  Probably to exclude  
the "scientific" goings on in places like Wuhan:

"There are a few exemptions. It doesn't prohibit Americans
"from conducting medical, scientific, or other research in
countries of concern, or from partnering or collaborating with
covered persons to share data to conduct researching, if that
activity does not involve the exchange of payment or other
consideration as part of a covered data transaction."

My quoted paragraphs come from:

https://www.pcmag.com/news/new-doj-rule-blocks-transfer-of- 
citizens-data-to-countries-of-concern

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