Aucbvax.5947 fa.space utcsrgv!utzoo!decvax!ucbvax!space Mon Jan 25 03:24:03 1982 SPACE Digest V2 #87 >From OTA@S1-A Mon Jan 25 03:17:06 1982 SPACE Digest Volume 2 : Issue 87 Today's Topics: G. Harry Stine Copyrights & retyping ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 24 January 1982 20:58-EST From: Robert Elton Maas Subject: G. Harry Stine To: POURNE at MIT-MC cc: SPACE at MIT-MC Date: 21 January 1982 04:20-EST From: Jerry E. Pournelle If one is a "humanist" does this invariably imply a tragic condition? that we accept fate, and give up the idea of solving our problems thrugh science and technology? A word means whatever I say it means, no more, no less. - Humpty Dumpty (Humanism is the quality of being human, so I guess we're all humanists.) (Another definition: a philosophy in which man, his interests, AND DEVELOPMENT are made central and dominant, tending to exalt the cultural and RATIONAL elements of man rather than the SUPERNATURAL OR SPECULATIVE. That would seem to include science and technology and exclude astrology and religion.) [Definitions from Doubleday dictionary 1975, upper-casification by REM for emphasis.] ------------------------------ Date: 25 January 1982 02:41-EST From: Jerry E. Pournelle To: TAW at S1-A cc: SPACE at MIT-MC More interestingly, if you cancel your subscriptoin, how will you ever see the refutations? Let me repeat, Harry loves ratling people's cages. ------------------------------ Date: 25 January 1982 02:45-EST From: Jerry E. Pournelle Subject: Copyrights & retyping To: TK at MIT-AI cc: SPACE at MIT-MC While I am as zealous for the rights of authors as anyone you know, let me point out that as a pratical matter copyrights are licenses to sue; and precisely what remedy does one get? In the case of material put on this net, whom do you sue; for what; and what damages does one ask for? Obviously if someone starts putting valuable properties onto the net, the authors and publishers are going to put a stop to it if they feel they are being harmed; but often what they will do is ignore the situation (thus not giving actual permission, which they'd be loathe to do, but not trying to stop things either...) ------------------------------ End of SPACE Digest ******************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- gopher://quux.org/ conversion by John Goerzen of http://communication.ucsd.edu/A-News/ This Usenet Oldnews Archive article may be copied and distributed freely, provided: 1. There is no money collected for the text(s) of the articles. 2. The following notice remains appended to each copy: The Usenet Oldnews Archive: Compilation Copyright (C) 1981, 1996 Bruce Jones, Henry Spencer, David Wiseman.