Adopey.128 net.space utcsrgv!utzoo!decvax!ucbvax!ihnss!mhtsa!rabbit!npois!harpo!chico!duke!unc!dopey.smb Wed Mar 3 19:56:10 1982 superluminal quasars Here's the basis for my question about quasars moving faster than light, from the August 22, 1981 issue of Science News: Just a few months ago, only four quasars with components moving apart at apparent velocities faster than the speed of light had been identified. Now... there are six. ... Each of the six has at least one pair of components separating at velocities that, from our vantage point, appear to be faster than light. The apparent expansion velocities are all in the range of 3 to 10 times the speed of light, with the exact numbers depending on which assumed value of the Hubble constant... is used. ... When astronomers refer to "superluminal expansion", they don't necessarily mean the components involved actually are separating from each other at faster than the speed of light. Built into the phrase... is the idea ... "as it appears from earth." The leading explanation... calls on a geometric situation in which a relativistic jet from the quasar is moving out from the core at a small angle to our line of sight to the core. During any given period since light left the jet on its route towards us, the jet itself has moved almost the same distance toward us as well. The light from its second position therefore reaches us only a short time after the light from its first position. ... Most astronomers assume this to be what is responsible for the measurements of superluminal expansions, although there is plenty of uneasiness over the requirement of having the fairly special line-of-sight orientation.... Six of twelve, or half, the appropriately analyzed quasars have shown it, a troublingly high frequency. However, the twelve are not random samples, but highly selective samples, and that might help explain away the difficulty. Now -- does anyone have any later information on this? (I note in passing that we seem to have yet another situation where special alignments are involved, as in the red shift/blue shift discussion.) ----------------------------------------------------------------- gopher://quux.org/ conversion by John Goerzen of http://communication.ucsd.edu/A-News/ This Usenet Oldnews Archive article may be copied and distributed freely, provided: 1. There is no money collected for the text(s) of the articles. 2. The following notice remains appended to each copy: The Usenet Oldnews Archive: Compilation Copyright (C) 1981, 1996 Bruce Jones, Henry Spencer, David Wiseman.