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ASalazarMX wrote 15 hours 33 min ago:
Nostr is attractive as another decentralized social network, but crypto
has tainted it so much that you can't dissociate the two, and that is
not attractive at all.
sebastix wrote 6 hours 7 min ago:
What crypto? Cryptocurrency or cryptography? This first one is
optional to be used with the protocol. The second not (see NIP-01 [1]
).
HTML [1]: https://nips.nostr.com/1
dmos62 wrote 7 hours 53 min ago:
I was curious so I researched a bit (read their landing page). I
don't understand what you mean. It doesn't use cryptocurrencies,
except as a way to tip others' content. Or, did you mean that you
find the use of cryptography unattractive? That would be such a
strange statement. Cryptocurrencies pioneered some awesome
technology: I would think it a shame to avoid it just because of some
cryptobros.
> Nostr uses the same cryptographic principles of Bitcoin and was
kickstarted mostly by a community of Bitcoiners, so it has
disproportionately attracted the attention of Bitcoiners at the
start, but aside from that it doesn't have any relationship with
Bitcoin. It doesn't depend on Bitcoin for anything and you don't have
to know or have or care about any Bitcoin in order to use Nostr.
>
> What about "zaps"? Zaps are a standard for tipping Nostr content
using Bitcoin that is implemented by some Nostr clients, but it's
fully and completely optional and if you don't care about Bitcoin you
don't have to bother about it.
sblom wrote 15 hours 3 min ago:
Both technologies (cryptocurrency and nostr) are very
cipherpunkâI'm not particularly surprised that they draw
overlapping crowds.
Another take on decentralized source control with more of an emphasis
on "federated" and less of one on "censorship resistant":
HTML [1]: https://tangled.org/
sebastix wrote 6 hours 2 min ago:
To me ATProto has not proven yet to be really distributed /
decentralized.
In terms of "censorship resistant" you can also think of a 100%
uptime of your code / work (your repository). Or always available
for anyone with a internet connection.
In the context of a federated network (aka fediverse), that's often
not the case (if a federated instance is unavailable, many assets
will be missing leading to a unuseable application or service).
khimaros wrote 14 hours 19 min ago:
and another:
HTML [1]: https://radicle.xyz/
sebastix wrote 5 hours 49 min ago:
Thx for sharing, didn't know that one.
After reading [1] my first impression it's the same as how it
works with Nostr with one key difference in the conceptual model.
Nostr uses relays to distribute the data and Radicle is using a
gossip model to distribute the data peer-to-peer (the bittorrent
model).
They do explain the difference with a federated model. I miss the
explainer compared to a relay model.
So regarding the peer-to-peer modal, here are some thoughts:
How IPFS is broken: [2] Why IPFS cannot work, again:
HTML [1]: https://radicle.xyz/guides/protocol
HTML [2]: https://fiatjaf.com/d5031e5b.html
HTML [3]: https://fiatjaf.com/b8e2f959.html
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