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        p0w3n3d wrote 1 hour 30 min ago:
        Normally people get punished for downloading illegal books. Allegedly
        someone at meta downloaded hella ton of illegal books and taught the
        LLM on them and they said "oh it was for his/hers private usage". You
        won't get justice here
       
          muldvarp wrote 1 hour 8 min ago:
          This to me is the most ridiculous thing about the whole AI situation.
          Piracy is now apparently just okay as long as you do it on an
          industrial scale and with the expressed intention of hurting the
          economic prospects of the authors of the pirated work.
          
          Seems completely ridiculous when compared to the trouble I was in
          that one time I pirated a single book that I was unable to purchase.
       
            lifestyleguru wrote 48 min ago:
            Hollywood and media publishers run entire franchises of legal
            bullies across developed world to harass individuals, and lobby for
            laws allowing easy prosecution of ISP contract owner. Even Google
            Books was castrated because of IP rights. Now I have hard time to
            imagine how this IP+AI cartel operates. Nowadays everyone and their
            cat throws millions on AI so I imagine IP owners get their share.
       
            Llamamoe wrote 55 min ago:
            We've essentially given up on pretending that corporations are also
            held accountable for their crimes in the recent years, and I think
            that's more worrying than anything.
       
        fithisux wrote 2 hours 33 min ago:
        Personally I view the usage of AI as fencing.
       
          stuaxo wrote 2 hours 23 min ago:
          Thank you for this wonderfully succinct description, I shall steal
          it.
       
        citizenpaul wrote 4 hours 38 min ago:
        I'm not sure how this is much different then Amazon which has basically
        monetized the entire Apache Software Foundation and donates a pittance
        back to them in the single digit millions when they are profiting in
        the trillions.
       
          y0eswddl wrote 3 hours 45 min ago:
          It's not different.
          
          There's also a huge problem with for-profit companies building on the
          work of FOSS without contributing resources or knowledge back.
       
            p0w3n3d wrote 1 hour 49 min ago:
            Nor sources
       
       
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