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bolangi wrote 56 min ago:
Mainstream science has poo-poohed for years any notion that Oriental
medicine practices for facilitating lymph flow have any utility. Nice
to hear they're back on the allopathic table.
Sparkyte wrote 3 hours 58 min ago:
I love getting my lymph nodes drained. Feels so good afterward.
spoaceman7777 wrote 7 hours 35 min ago:
Yeah, the body-wide mucous thinning properties of NAC are one of the
reasons it has racked up papers showing its efficacy in a truly
staggering number of illnesses and conditions. (Including
neurodegenerative diseases.)
Highly recommend reading the actual literature on its effects in regard
to cystic fibrosis, pancreatitis, COPD, neurodegenerative disorders,
high blood pressure, ulcers, IBD, liver and kidney problems, OCD...
The list goes on at a pretty extreme length, and it sounds too good to
be true, but the papers are out there.
flowerthoughts wrote 2 hours 41 min ago:
I can't find anything in the article about NAC or N-acetylcystein.
What's the relevance?
spoaceman7777 wrote 2 hours 29 min ago:
The article is about improving the flow of lymph in the brain, and
NAC thins mucous, lymph, and various other bodily fluids, which
leads to improved flow and general clearance.
Aurornis wrote 4 hours 17 min ago:
NAC is in the category of supplements that sound unbelievably
amazing on paper, but are frequently discontinued by people trying to
take it long term. Some people seem to like it, but itâs common for
people to take it for a while and realize itâs causing side effects
like anhedonia, apathy, minor sleep disruptions, or other subtle
negative effects. Not everyone, but itâs a common outcome.
It also doesnât quite live up to a lot of the incredible sounding
papers for many conditions. Itâs really common to find papers or
even small trials purporting to find amazing effects from supplements
that fail to replicate at scale. NAC does have some legitimate
applications and is even used medically for certain conditions. Iâm
a little more skeptical that all of the amazing positives for every
condition under the sun will hold up.
itchyouch wrote 3 hours 19 min ago:
When considering NAC's mechanisms, it seems that it's efficacy is
likely dependent on an individuals's glutathione status.
I doubt that folks with a solid diet, high in sulfur would find
much benefit from NAC.
However, as someone who's gotten to use it first hand and have
dealt with lifelong, mild inflammation (puffy fingers, clogged nose
here and there), it's definitely been a huge quality of life
enhancer.
Trasmatta wrote 4 hours 26 min ago:
It's also very effective at helping reduce the damage of alcohol, if
you take it before drinking. Lessens hangovers too.
n8henrie wrote 4 hours 22 min ago:
Citation?
AnthonBerg wrote 7 hours 8 min ago:
Seconded.
I... I don't know how to get it across; For the love of God read the
literature on NAC, alpha lipoic acid, bromhexine, and ambroxol.
Just... read. Read the molecular biology papers.
vixen99 wrote 38 min ago:
Or browse these;
HTML [1]: https://www.freefullpdf.com/search_gcse/?q=NAC#gsc.tab=0&g...
TripleTree wrote 3 hours 57 min ago:
Where would you recommend?
p1esk wrote 5 hours 38 min ago:
Would regular engineers like us understand molecular biology
papers?
DANmode wrote 3 hours 36 min ago:
Youâll understand the abstract and the conclusion!
:eyeroll:
p1esk wrote 3 hours 10 min ago:
OK, I just read the abstract and conclusion of the NAC paper
posted above. But then I saw a comment from Aurornis saying
itâs not that good. Not sure who I should listen to.
ridgeguy wrote 7 hours 11 min ago:
Can you suggest a review article or two? Interested in this as my dad
passed from hemorrhagic stroke, my mom from occlusive stroke. Thanks.
Loughla wrote 6 hours 37 min ago:
Would also like to ask for a starting point in this. Googling has
not really gotten me anywhere credible. Specifically related to
stroke or high blood pressure (both family traits).
refibrillator wrote 4 hours 17 min ago:
Hereâs a starting point: [1] TLDR: NAC is a derivative of an
amino acid called cysteine, as such it is a precursor for one of
the most important antioxidants in the body and it can modulate
key metabolic pathways associated with good health across a
variety of organs, notably for decades it has been a universally
successful antidote for acetaminophen (Tylenol) overdose, itâs
available over the counter but NAC is not naturally found in
foods, eating cysteine-rich foods like chicken turkey yogurt etc
is the next best bet.
HTML [1]: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5241507/#B1
lanakei wrote 8 hours 43 min ago:
Full article:
HTML [1]: https://www.monash.edu/news/articles/scientists-unlock-brains-...
canadiantim wrote 9 hours 23 min ago:
Very interesting, especially in light of the Chinese studyâs claiming
to have success with a large subset of Alzheimerâs by adding a shunt
to the cervical lymphatic nodes, which seems to be exactly what
theyâre doing here too.
For those who donât want to wait and have someone they love who can
benefit from this, simply massaging the lymph nodes in the neck 10
minutes a day also significantly increases flow through these lymph
nodes and thereby increases drainage of lymph from the brain.
agumonkey wrote 3 hours 27 min ago:
Makes me wonder if body posture promoting blood flow to the head
(yoga or else) can be helpful here too.
gehwartzen wrote 1 hour 0 min ago:
I like hanging upside down which seems to get a lot of fluid flow
to the brain. Using ankle hooks and an electric hoist or just
hanging by the back of the knees over a bar.
rowanG077 wrote 7 hours 57 min ago:
Is this something I can do to myself? Is there some kind of video
tutorial to see what I really need to do?
lemonberry wrote 3 hours 58 min ago:
Andrew Huberman did an episode in October on the lymphatic system.
I learned a lot. Highly recommend.
drekk wrote 7 hours 20 min ago:
You absolutely can! Look up "lymphatic face drainage" on YouTube,
there are lots of tutorials. You can do it with just your hands or
a jade gua sha tool.
femto wrote 4 hours 56 min ago:
I wonder if anyone has ever done a study to see if there is a
correlation between daily wet facial shaving with soap and
Alzheimer's? A wet shave would be a short facial massage, whilst
lathering the shaving soap.
Loughla wrote 6 hours 36 min ago:
Other than maybe helping with Alzheimer's as claimed above, is
there any benefit to this?
yosito wrote 8 hours 10 min ago:
It would be really interesting if we find out that a simple 10 minute
daily massage of the lymph nodes in the neck significantly prevents
Alzheimer's.
crossroadsguy wrote 7 hours 39 min ago:
.. and I think there are already evidence that it tends to affect
people who had regular lymphatic inflammations throughout their
life (on a less serious note: like yours truly's.. the neck/throat
ones.. and I am already forgetting things and blanking out and I
haven't even touched 40 :/).
colordrops wrote 9 hours 0 min ago:
Hmm, I had a bunch removed due to thyroid cancer. I wonder if that
reduced my brains ability to clean itself out.
monero-xmr wrote 8 hours 33 min ago:
It will turn out we just need to sit in a box for 15 minutes a day
to pound us with magnets, sound waves, and hardcore vibrations to
live to 125
bsder wrote 7 hours 53 min ago:
Heavy metal stops Alzheimer's! Yeah! \m/_(>_<)_\m/
Huh? What did you say? You'll have to speak up louder, though.
calvinmorrison wrote 7 hours 56 min ago:
also living on 600 calories a day of course
hkt wrote 8 hours 24 min ago:
Don't forget near infrared lasers for some photobiomodulation!
dmd wrote 7 hours 55 min ago:
supposing you brought the light inside the body, either through
the skin or some other way
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