DIR Return Create A Forum - Home --------------------------------------------------------- Charliealphaco HTML https://charliealphaco.createaforum.com --------------------------------------------------------- ***************************************************** DIR Return to: Gear ***************************************************** #Post#: 4896-------------------------------------------------- Mid Cap Guide By: spetz Date: November 14, 2011, 6:22 pm --------------------------------------------------------- I've noticed recently that a few people have been interested in using mid cap magazines. I've only ran mid caps through my m4 and I would much rather run mids then highcaps. It adds a level of realism to the game and helps cut down on ammunition usage. Here I will share my personal experiences with mid caps and do my best to help guide you in the direction of what ones you want to purchase. My current mag collection consists of: 1 G&P metal 120rd mid cap 5 Kingarm's plastic 120rd mid caps 6 MAG plastic 120rd mid caps (Used to be 8, 2 have died) What to purchase: When your deciding on what mid cap to purchase you have a few factors to consider (In order): 1. How much does it cost? Remember you'll need around 4 mids to make a high cap, so paying $15 a mag may not be the best plan. 2. How durable is it? Metal mags tend to be more durable, also when they break they're much easier to fix. Plastic mags on the other hand are extremely difficult to fix and break more often. 3. How does it feed? This is one of the hardest questions to answer because almost every gun is different. If you know people with mags that your considering purchasing then ask to try them out to see it they feed. 4. How does it fit? Alot of times the reason a mag doesn't feed it because of the fit in the mag well, also some magwells are too small for mags to fit. (I have a horrible time trying to fit G&G mags in my m4) Metal or plastic: Metal midcaps are almost always the best way to go if you can afford them, the downside of metal mids is the price. If you can afford them they will probably last longer then plastic and are much easier to fix. Another thing to remember about metal mids is they are slightly heavier. Plasic mids are cheap and allow you to get a large amount without breaking your bank. They are nearly impossible to fix and get deformed much easier then metal mags do. King Arms Vs MAG: (I've only used my King Arm's mag's for about 3 days of play and have yet to oil them.) King Arms and MAG are the two economy brands of mid caps. King Arms from AirsoftGI run at $32 for a 5 pack ($6.40 per mag) and MAG runs at $56 for a 5 pack ($7.00 per mag). The King Arms are able to hold about 90-100rds each and the MAG are able to hold around 100-110rds each. So far when left alone neither mag fed right in my m4 after taping the mags they both fed. The MAG mag's require quite a bit of care (I lube mine about every 5-7 uses) and I havent lubed my King Arms yet. King Arms seems to be feeding better then MAG did before I put work into them. I will add more as I use the King Arms mags more. Ok so now you've purchased your mags now what? Breaking in your mags: Most mid caps will be horrible with feeding the first 3 to 5 uses. After that they should start feeding better and as they get broken in they improve. If that doesn't make your mag feed: There are 2 things you can do to make your mid cap feed better (besides upgrading the gun). Lubing your mag: There are a few oppinions on how to do this and they changed based on the type of midcap. You want to use pure silicon oil (same you use cleaning your gun). My method to lube mags is as follows: 1. Spray silicon oil down an empty mag (be careful to get enough but try not to put too much in) 2. fill the mag with bbs 3. release the bbs from the mag into your speedloader or another container. 4. repeat 2 and 3 about 2-4 times (this will even out the oil and will remove most excess oil) Taping your mag: If your mag is wobbly that may be why it isn't feeding (In my case it sat too far back). To fix this you simply take tape (normally electical, but depending on your sittuation you may want to use something else) and wrap it around the mag so that it's just above the bottom of the magwell when in your AEG. From there you can adjust the tape by adding more or less to certain areas to make it sit where you want in the magwell (It's a lot like shimming) Last bit of advice: When your midcap stops feeding (it will happen even after the mag is broken in) try hiting it. Sometimes bbs get stuck and just need to be shaken out. I hope people find this helpful and if you have any questions feel free to ask. #Post#: 4897-------------------------------------------------- Re: Mid Cap Guide By: Carignan1022 Date: November 15, 2011, 7:02 am --------------------------------------------------------- Good info. I agree with you for the most part. The part I think is different is breaking in the mag. I feel you don't need to worry about over lubricating your mag for the first few times. Also dont worry about waisting BB's just go ahead and shoot them thought he gun when breaking the mag in. Other part is plastic mags. I found they come real cheap, these still work ok for the most part. But like Spetz said every gun is different. (I have never meet a gun that is not picky btw) Like he said not very durable, in the end if it breaks just throw it out. They are cheap for that reason. The other hand there are some more expensive one like magpull, p-mags that are very durable. I would say they can be just as durable or more then metal ones. They are still cheaper then metal too. Depending were you go about 80$ for a pack of 10, each with 75 rnd. I would like to also add, watch for how many rounds the mags hold. They can range from only 20 rnds up to 150 rnds, these are all mid caps. So make sure you get the capacity you want and keep them all the same. #Post#: 4899-------------------------------------------------- Re: Mid Cap Guide By: spetz Date: November 15, 2011, 8:29 am --------------------------------------------------------- Good points. I didn't bring up Pmags because I don't have any experience with them and don't know how they opperate. For instance a quality metal mag has an outside shell and then inside has differnt parts you can take off to clean, un-jam, and change springs. A plastic mag is molded and glued together, you have a little hatch on the bottom that holds the spring, if that comes off you pretty much have to have a machine to get the spring back in. #Post#: 4900-------------------------------------------------- Re: Mid Cap Guide By: Chappie Date: November 15, 2011, 8:33 am --------------------------------------------------------- I have personally been looking into picking up some pmags. Great post spetz!! #Post#: 4907-------------------------------------------------- Re: Mid Cap Guide By: Carignan1022 Date: November 15, 2011, 11:37 am --------------------------------------------------------- I have a couple of p-mags, I am very impressed that they are the only ones that I will buy. *****************************************************