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       Is existence truly sensuous? (Nietzsche's The Gay Science)
       By: StircrazyReality Date: September 16, 2017, 9:29 pm
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       Nietzsche, Friedrich. The Gay Science.
       373
       'Science' as prejudice. - It follows from the laws that govern
       rank ordering
       (Rangordnung) that scholars, insofar as they belong to the
       intellectual middle class, are not even allowed to catch sight
       of the truly
       great problems and question marks; moreover, their courage and
       eyes
       simply don't reach that far - and above all, the need that makes
       them
       scholars, their inner expectations and wish that things might be
       such and
       such, their fear and hope, too soon find rest and satisfaction.
       What
       makes, for instance, the pedantic Englishman Herbert Spencer
       rave in
       his own way and makes him draw a line of hope, a horizon which
       defines what is desirable; that definitive reconciliation of
       'egoism and
       altruism' about which he spins fables - this almost nauseates
       the likes of
       us: a human race that adopts as its ultimate perspective such a
       Spencerian perspective would strike us as deserving of contempt,
       of
       annihilation! But that he had to view as his highest hope what
       to others
       counts and should count only as a disgusting possibility is a
       question
       mark that Spencer would have been unable to foresee. So, too, it
       is with
       the faith with which so many materialistic natural scientists
       rest
       content: the faith in a world that is supposed to have its
       equivalent and
       measure in human thought, in human valuations - a 'world of
       truth'
       that can be grasped entirely with the help of our four-cornered
       little
       human reason - What? Do we really want to demote existence in
       this
       way to an exercise in arithmetic and an indoor diversion for
       mathematicians?
       Above all, one shouldn't want to strip it of its ambiguous
       character: that, gentlemen, is what good taste demands - above
       all, the
       taste of reverence for everything that lies beyond your horizon!
       That the
       only rightful interpretation of the world should be one to which
       you
       have a right; one by which one can do research and go on
       scientifically
       in your sense of the term (you really mean mechanistically?) -
       one that
       permits counting, calculating, weighing, seeing, grasping, and
       nothing
       else - that is a crudity and naivete, assuming it is not a
       mental illness, an
       idiocy. Would it not be quite probable, conversely, that
       precisely the
       most superficial and external aspect of existence - what is most
       apparent; its skin and its sensualization - would be grasped
       first and
       might even be the only thing that let itself be grasped? Thus, a
       'scientific' interpretation of the world, as you understand it,
       might still
       be one of the stupidest of all possible interpretations of the
       world, i.e. one
       of those most lacking in significance. This to the ear and
       conscience of
       Mr Mechanic, who nowadays likes to pass as a philosopher and
       insists
       that mechanics is the doctrine of the first and final laws on
       which
       existence may be built, as on a ground floor. But an essentially
       mechanistic world would be an essentially meaningless world!
       Suppose
       one judged the value of a piece of music according to how much
       of it
       could be counted, calculated, and expressed in formulas - how
       absurd
       such a 'scientific' evaluation of music would be What would one
       have
       comprehended, understood, recognized? Nothing, really nothing of
       what is 'music' in it!
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       Re: Is existence truly sensuous? (Nietzsche's The Gay Science)
       By: pdrsn Date: September 19, 2017, 8:46 pm
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       The world compared to music.
       When I read the above, I think that there is something that we
       are missing in our life in our relationship with the world and
       that this fundamentally changes things, what that change is I
       don't know.
       When we listen to music we interact with it in a few ways, just
       the surface sensuousness but also the 'mechanical' theoretical
       side (if we have learnt music theory).
       How would we live and think if we treated life as if it were
       music?
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