DIR Return Create A Forum - Home --------------------------------------------------------- CycleKarts GB HTML https://cyclekartsgb.createaforum.com --------------------------------------------------------- ***************************************************** DIR Return to: Where to get stuff ***************************************************** #Post#: 12136-------------------------------------------------- A new Peerless 110 Differential By: Graham Hill Date: December 16, 2024, 3:37 am --------------------------------------------------------- I am pleased to confirm that Gemini Karts now have a stock of ‘metric’ Peerless differentials and axle suitable for the European market. The Peerless 110, now available on Gemini Karts website, is the result of their direct design negotiation with Comet (Comet Clutches and Peerless Gear LLC are sister companies under the USA group ‘Certified Parts Corporation’). The differential is supplied with a 1000mm long 25mm diameter axle keyed along its entire length, (both sides), complete with grooved ends to accept a circlip retainer, allowing the fitting of standard 25mm go kart drivetrain components. Gemini Karts also have a stock of compatible 420 60-tooth plate-wheels available, with a 420 70-tooth plate-wheel soon in the New Year. Their recommendation is to fit a disc brake to both axles and a new 200 diameter disc for carrier-mounting is also available soon. All further enquires to either Chris or Mark at Gemini on 01933 357797. #Post#: 12137-------------------------------------------------- Re: A new Peerless 110 Differential By: Jimr1999 Date: December 16, 2024, 4:01 am --------------------------------------------------------- Looks like a total re-design from previous Peerless 100 series diffs Graham, and the 25mm keyed axle will make it a lot easier to use on a CK. A great improvement. Its torque rating is fine for our requirements (Standard engine is about 13N/M at shaft, so geared up, that leaves headroom) I will add that in my experience of braking the diff casing rather than each shaft, I have yet to find a problem with the result, but understand the logic behind braking both axles. When I fabricated mine, I used long and short half axles to get the diff and sprocket to accept a central engine position and direct drive for the torque convertor, this saved room in the engine bay and the need for an adapter (Like used in many U.S. builds) to offset the sprocket. HTML https://www.renegadecyclekarts.com/products/p/differential-sprocket-adapter A layshaft solves that issue. The new guidance on maximum track would be well within at 1m total length, axles up to 1090mm seem to be within our rules. I am sure all 15 will fly off the shelf with Gemini and I wish them luck with it. #Post#: 12138-------------------------------------------------- Re: A new Peerless 110 Differential By: Jimr1999 Date: December 16, 2024, 4:13 am --------------------------------------------------------- ... thinking out loud for future re-designs Graham, if the design was altered so one of the half shafts was 90mm longer, that would kill two birds with one stone??? A 1090mm axle and an offset diff location. JimR #Post#: 12139-------------------------------------------------- Re: A new Peerless 110 Differential By: Graham Hill Date: December 16, 2024, 4:16 am --------------------------------------------------------- Jim. Yes, Gemini do not currently offer a spacer to offset the platewheel, but are happy to develop one if there is a requirement. Additionally they have suggested that further design changes are possible with Comet if unequal axle lengths are seen as a preference. If you email me with suggested dimensions I can get them onto this. #Post#: 12145-------------------------------------------------- Re: A new Peerless 110 Differential By: StefanN Date: December 17, 2024, 2:29 am --------------------------------------------------------- [quote author=Jimr1999 link=topic=1618.msg12137#msg12137 date=1734343297] Its torque rating is fine for our requirements (Standard engine is about 13N/M at shaft, so geared up, that leaves headroom) I will add that in my experience of braking the diff casing rather than each shaft, I have yet to find a problem with the result, but understand the logic behind braking both axles. [/quote] Thanks for the news Graham and well done Gemini. Jim, under braking, you need about 280Nm (very approximate) to lock the back axle which comes closer to the max torque of the diff (305Nm). I suspect there’s a good safety margin in the spec, but I can see the logic in braking both sides. #Post#: 12146-------------------------------------------------- Re: A new Peerless 110 Differential By: Jimr1999 Date: December 17, 2024, 3:01 am --------------------------------------------------------- Me too Stefan, makes for a good safety if the diff does fail. If the wheels lock at that force, then they should also spin at that torque? The new Peerless110 diff has a much narrower body than the old 100 Peerless, mounting both a disc and a sprocket would not be possible without an adapter. JimR #Post#: 12148-------------------------------------------------- Re: A new Peerless 110 Differential By: Granville Date: December 17, 2024, 2:36 pm --------------------------------------------------------- I run twin brakes with the peerless 100. My theory was that if using a single brake on the diff housing and one wheel locked up and started sliding the other would be free to rotate within the diff so you would not be braking that free spinning wheel at all. I ended up using an adjustable twin piston master cylinder so that both brakes could be matched so one side did not lock up before the other. This diff looks so much better than the 100, as the shafts on the 100 had to be machined down to 25mm and a 6mm slot then had to be machined all the way along the shafts. Tempted to get one of the 110s for my second build but wonder just how much difference does a £250 diff make than a solid axle for what we use them for, having never driven a solid axle I don't know the advantage or disadvantage that come with using or not using a diff. Anyone any experience of using both, is one better than the other? #Post#: 12154-------------------------------------------------- Re: A new Peerless 110 Differential By: Jimr1999 Date: December 18, 2024, 6:39 am --------------------------------------------------------- News to me... On looking through the Gemini site today, it seems you can now get the front steering arm in the low position as well as the high position. Gives more flexibility in steering link location. HTML https://www.geminikarts.co.uk/product/front-axle-steering-arm-yolk/ JimR #Post#: 12159-------------------------------------------------- Re: A new Peerless 110 Differential By: jim Date: December 19, 2024, 12:06 am --------------------------------------------------------- These axles look good and the price seams ok. I've got to go to the doctors this morning and it's just round the corner from Gemini. I may have to call in, buy one and fit it to the Ford Schlock inspired CK I'm very slowly building. I will try and put up some build photos in the next 12 months or so, if any progress is made. #Post#: 12165-------------------------------------------------- Re: A new Peerless 110 Differential By: Jimr1999 Date: December 19, 2024, 6:59 am --------------------------------------------------------- Dimensioned drawings courtesy of Gemini Karts attached... JimR ***************************************************** DIR Next Page