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Is Motown Dead?
By: humboldt Date: August 20, 2023, 7:49 pm
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MT is actually over 18 years old and was created on 25th
February 2005 as a Yahoo Group with over 600 members out of
which about 50 were active posting wise. When Yahoo dropped
supporting groups I created this version which I think is much
better laid out with forums for each major artist. Now sadly
only a handful of faithful members are supporting the group.
Most posts get no response and less than 10 views! I honestly
don't know how long I can keep MT going as most times I'm just
talking to thin air. It's so disheartening that I sometimes feel
like closing it down. I know that there has been nothing new for
at least the past couple of years. In fact, correct me if I'm
wrong, I think that Blinky's double CD in Nov 2009 was the last
US release. She made it out of the vaults just as the doors
slammed shut behind her! ACE are supposed to working an a male
collection and Andy Skurow has not replied to my last three
emails! I spend a couple of hours each day scouring the likes of
YT, press etc for news but it seems that no one is interested.
Perhaps it is time to call it a day? Perhaps Motown is dead?
Perhaps I should just shut up?
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Re: Is Motown Dead?
By: ross61 Date: August 21, 2023, 5:37 pm
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Don't know what to say really i'm on your side not much
happening with motown i always check your site for any new news
most days and always read the new posts.
i wish more was happening with strong vinyl sales i was hoping
to see more on the motown label, the 7" box sets are fetching
some good money there must be a market for new stuff.
i wish you well in what ever you do.
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Re: Is Motown Dead?
By: Roger Date: August 22, 2023, 3:03 am
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Interesting that the 7" box sets get mentioned by ross61. There
still seems to be a trickle of "new" material issued on 7" vinyl
and aimed at the "Collectors"/"Northern Soul" market. The most
recent of which was a Barbara McNair 45 on Outta Sight Soul
Essentials that paired "It Happens Every Time" with a reissue of
her "You're Gonna Love My Baby" (the first time the latter has
been legally available on a single since 1966).
HTML https://www.northernsouldirect.co.uk/shop/new-releases/barbara-mcnair-it-happens-every-time-youre-gonna-love-my-baby-45-outta-sight-7-vinyl/
Personally I don't buy such things, partly as I have both sides
on CD and partly because at £14 the price looks outrageous (a 15
or 20 track CD is usually less than that price), are there any
members of MT who do? This was released a few weeks back but
nobody saw fit to mention it here until now so I suspect that
the answer to my question is no!!
Roger
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Re: Is Motown Dead?
By: Bill Date: September 10, 2023, 1:54 pm
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John, I really don't know how to address your matter. I am in
the same boat as Roger is. I prefer as many members do the ease
and comfort of a CD vs. vinyl. I personally started out many
years ago collecting vinyl of which I have way more than I need.
With the advent of CDs, I started collecting these and rarely
buy any vinyl unless it is something that is missing from my
earlier collection. Unfortunately the ones I need are not
reasonably priced. Part of the problem with the vinyl I have
acquired is that I have all of the Complete Motown Singles which
is essentially duplicate effort from the vinyl in my collection.
I as probably many others are am not an overwhelming Barbara
McNair fan. She is in an entirely different category than the
superstars of Motown, i. e. Supremes, Temptations, Four Tops,
Miracles, Isley Brothers, etc. I have exactly 4 Barbara McNair
singles in my collection but they haven't been played in many
years, if ever. I never recall hearing any of her songs on the
broadcast airwaves. I am not opposed to her, but she is not
someone I would put a priority upon to listen to. In fact if I
would hear any of her singles, I probably would not be able to
say who sang the song.
You have done an extraordinary job with the forum that you
created. Yours in my opinion is way superior to the Soulful
Detroit forum. The way it is laid out and the ease of using is
awesome.
As discussed earlier in responses to your initial posting, a lot
of the blame lies with Universal. There was a time when Harry
came out and made big announcements about upcoming releases,
etc. but those were the days. I never hear anything about him
and it seems as though he has vanished into thin air. There is
quite a legacy behind him and it is a doggone shame in my
opinion.
I am hoping that whenever the new Motown Museum is officially
rededicated in its entirety things might take a turn for the
better.
I am guilty as others for not utilizing the MT more than I do.
I will attempt to do better. But don't drop the forum, it
serves a worthwhile purpose. You are appreciated very much.
Your care and attention to the forum is what makes it great.
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Re: Is Motown Dead?
By: Paul Nixon Date: September 11, 2023, 11:47 am
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I am lead to believe in a sorry state which exisits in which it
is cheaper for Universal not to release back catalogue. It seems
that even licensing out material costs more in the way of
salaries and mechanicals than they recoup in fees. The same with
releasing product themselves - the actual costs of getting
physical CD's to market oustrips any commercial gain they could
make in way of sales.
It seems the only real income comes from licensing from the
movie or commercial indusrty.
I wondered then why not give the catalogue away but there is
always the added advantage of a death of an artist to boost
sales or as I say the income from a movie.
I think we have had our day in more ways than one.
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Re: Is Motown Dead?
By: Paul Nixon Date: September 11, 2023, 11:52 am
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[attach=1] 3 years passed
#Post#: 10908--------------------------------------------------
Re: Is Motown Dead?
By: humboldt Date: September 11, 2023, 11:58 am
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It is my favourite volume Paul and I think the best seller! I
have reached the stage that I would be happy with downloads!
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Re: Is Motown Dead?
By: Snakepit Date: September 11, 2023, 1:33 pm
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Not surprised...where's the interest?
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Re: Is Motown Dead?
By: humboldt Date: September 11, 2023, 3:16 pm
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[quote author=Paul Nixon link=topic=2148.msg10906#msg10906
date=1694450823]
I am lead to believe in a sorry state which exisits in which it
is cheaper for Universal not to release back catalogue. It seems
that even licensing out material costs more in the way of
salaries and mechanicals than they recoup in fees. The same with
releasing product themselves - the actual costs of getting
physical CD's to market oustrips any commercial gain they could
make in way of sales.
It seems the only real income comes from licensing from the
movie or commercial indusrty.
I wondered then why not give the catalogue away but there is
always the added advantage of a death of an artist to boost
sales or as I say the income from a movie.
I think we have had our day in more ways than one.
[/quote]
Indeed Paul, it is a very sad state of affairs. I know that the
glory days are long over. They were wonderful while they lasted.
I'm just so relieved that Blinky got out of the vaults in the
nick of time as it wouldn't happen now! I had hoped that when
IJH died that he would get a posthumous release as death sells!
I did not happen despite the fact that it's just sitting there
as I believe that all the hard work has been done!
Ace are supposedly issuing another Motown men collection -
sometime! Oh well!
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Re: Is Motown Dead?
By: Snakepit Date: October 9, 2023, 10:41 am
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Whilst it seems that we are destined to be ignored, Motown wise,
there does appear to be recent interest in Workshop Jazz CDS.
Is there more of a market for Dave Hamilton and Paula Greer
than Ivy Hunter?
Why are they deemed suitable for release?
Are these CDs genuine and Motown approved?
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