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#Post#: 5777--------------------------------------------------
How would something like this work?
By: quadster Date: December 10, 2012, 8:32 pm
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Front end looks narrower than a 250r? 250 or 550 hybrid project?
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Re: How would something like this work?
By: WestTexasKing Date: December 10, 2012, 10:02 pm
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The LT250S is just an LT230S with a 30cc larger engine.
Everything else is basically identical.
So, if the LT250S is any good for a hybrid, the LT230S would be
just as suitable.
As far as the front suspension, it's narrower than the 250, but
wider than the Z400 on the bottom.
It wouldn't take much effort at all to reposition the lower
a-arm tabs and retrofit Z400 a-arms.
Problem is, the 230 frame is pretty weak for its weight...so it
would need some reinforcing.
As far as the size of the frame itself, it would be a great if
you could get the Z400's wheelbase on a 230 (it would be like
having a +6 swingarm and +6 a-arms).
Probably handle like nobody's business.
The other problem is that the engine area is also pretty small,
so that limits you in what kind of engines you can run without
serious modifications to the frame (think sport bike engine in a
zilla modifications).
A 4-stroke thumper engine would be the easiest choice, as you
could bend the exhaust to conform a lot easier than you could a
2-stroke pipe.
I've done some preliminary measurements and I believe a Z400
engine could fit without too much work, possibly an LTR with
some tank and frame modifications.
That help answer your questions?
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Re: How would something like this work?
By: jmauld Date: April 17, 2013, 3:38 pm
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[quote author=WestTexasKing link=topic=748.msg5789#msg5789
date=1355198559]
I've done some preliminary measurements and I believe a Z400
engine could fit without too much work, possibly an LTR with
some tank and frame modifications.
That help answer your questions?
[/quote]
As far as I can tell, the Z400 engine is going to be just a tad
too tall. Plus you would then need to find room for the
radiator and the oil tank. But it's hard to tell for certain
with the engine still installed in the z400.
What about a RMZ250, DRZ250 or DR350 engine? I haven't been
able to get access to any of those engines to measure them.
#Post#: 15701--------------------------------------------------
Re: How would something like this work?
By: VoodooChassisWorks Date: April 17, 2013, 5:41 pm
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I was thinking the same on the RMZ. I've got the DRZ250 in a
blaster frame, but its a complete turd.
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Re: How would something like this work?
By: jmauld Date: April 17, 2013, 7:20 pm
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Any chance you could measure the drz engine for me?
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Re: How would something like this work?
By: VoodooChassisWorks Date: April 17, 2013, 10:14 pm
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Its not a DRZ top end. Got a custom twin cam 300 top end on her
now. Bumped from 24 hp to a whopping 29. Totally not worth it..
#Post#: 15729--------------------------------------------------
Re: How would something like this work?
By: jmauld Date: April 17, 2013, 10:45 pm
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29hp sounds pretty good to me. I'm not looking for big numbers,
just something fun to trail ride with. And something that would
allow my wife to at least come close to keeping up with my z400.
Between her weighing a lot less than me, and the 230 being
about 80lbs lighter than the 400, I don't think it would take a
lot of power to get her there.
The stock engine that's currently in my 230 frame is probably
making around 15-17hp.
I'd be interested in knowing more about your engine setup, if
you don't mind sharing.
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Re: How would something like this work?
By: WestTexasKing Date: April 18, 2013, 4:09 am
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Well, you definitely don't want to modify the 230's engine to
put out that kind of power, because it turns into a REAL money
pit and performance parts are pretty scarce.
The Z400's engine is a bit tall, you'll have to drop the frame a
tad or angle the engine forward more.
I have checked the frame to see if a radiator would fit, and
there's also enough room for an oil tank and standard size
battery as well.
The LT230E already has a battery box located in front of the
grab bar and underneath the seat.
It's all relative to how much time and money you want in an
LT230....it'll be a hell of a 230, no doubt it would be fun and
great on trails, but you may be better off finding a quad that
fits your wife better.
The Z400 is my wife's ride, and she really likes it.
She seems to control it well, especially considering she's only
110lbs.
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Re: How would something like this work?
By: jmauld Date: April 18, 2013, 7:27 am
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[quote author=WestTexasKing link=topic=748.msg15739#msg15739
date=1366276182]
She seems to control it well, especially considering she's only
110lbs.
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I hear you.
My wife is also 110lbs. She's ridden my z400 and doesn't feel
comfortable on it. It is a bit large for her and she doesn't
feel like she has a lot of control over it. She currently rides
a z250, which is not very well suited for the type of riding
that we generally do. It's fine when we're just cruising
through the woods with our son following us, but sometimes he
stays at home. She tries to keep up with me, and that z250
can't turn well and it bounces when she lands off of a jump.
I've had this LT230s for 23 yrs now, so I'm obviously never
going to get rid of it. I might as well have some fun with it
and make it useful. I figure that I could put a few bucks into
it, and recoup a big part of that by selling the z250.
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Re: How would something like this work?
By: VoodooChassisWorks Date: April 21, 2013, 11:33 pm
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Sounds like the DRZ may suit her well in the 230. Its a pretty
smooth motor, its just really frikkin bulky in the bottom end.
No oil tank or radiator needed. They are really tough, the only
issue I've had with mine is the starter clutch.
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