DIR Return Create A Forum - Home --------------------------------------------------------- The New Rebellion HTML https://thenewrebellion.createaforum.com --------------------------------------------------------- ***************************************************** DIR Return to: Darth Shadow Lands ***************************************************** #Post#: 1846-------------------------------------------------- GW Hit List By: DarthMasterShawn Date: March 8, 2016, 9:56 pm --------------------------------------------------------- Ok to start a hit list here. It is really dependent somewhat on what you run. This is how I attack and prioritize and my logic on why I go in this order. This is general kill order. At the end I'll talk about if multiple big threats and if Poe ect. I reccomend Barriss lead if you have here. She hits terrible but her HP boosts, passives, and here health equalization through the immune is so helpful. #1 Rey, GS,FOTP, 88, 86,Maul QGJ (Yoda now) Leia if 5* or less These can mess you up very fast. Rey, QGJ,GS,FOTP, *^ can 1 hit you, 88 can ability block and deal heavy damage to the whole team. All are fairly fast to kill. These are your highest threats. I add Yoda, not for his single damage, but left unchecked he will destroy you, so best to get him out fast. I attack them based on speed mainly, though If they have like Maul and FOTP I hit Maul. He is a bigger threat than FOTP due to the wicked AOE. Same is I must choose between the droids. Rey dies first anytime I see her. She is very fast, and so deadly. Threat analysis is key. I take time before I go battle to do the threat analysis. Shawn why is Leia not here over 5*? Simple, she is 3rd fastest in the game. Dooku and Sid combined can't kill a 7* max Leia, and rarely a 6* unless you get a double attack double Crit and Sid crits, and AI stealths her almost always 1st turn so she is a vicious killer you just have to take. If she is not 7* purple and you have both Dooku and Sid, toss a stun at her, if it fails hit with Sid, she lives retyreat, or if she is the only cannon let it play out. Leia I damage with Sid AOE. I rarely AOE Sid first turn. I save it for Leia stealth and/or Poe taunt. Leia the second she is off Stealth focus fire her to the ground. #2 Sid Sid is not a big Damage dealer, but in a war of attrition his heal immune really is a pain in the ass. It sucks having your top toons depleted and unable to heal. I strive for full health going into next fight. Best way for that is kill Sid fast. Sid is my first kill if there are no 1 hitters in there. DO NOT ATTACK SID WITH LUMI if possible. He seems to dodge her far more than any others. Now if her basic will finish him go ahead risk it, but I find his dodge on her is North of 50%. Once you pass that it gets less obvious. This is where evaluation comes into play. How is your health? Who do you have with heals? Who is your leader? If you run Lumi and heal immunes are gone this is a decent time to hit it for the heal over time, plus her cooldown is given more chance to reset for next turn, unless there is a kylo then if you can, hold off. #3 Daka If no Daka I tend to focus fire Ren here if he has no retribution, Lumi if he does. His outrage can screw you up, the AOE is annoying, and the Heal immune sucks. If you time it right he no longer has retribution. Opress here might be wise given the Buff. If Ren did not have Heal Immune I'd have him lower tier. #4 the counter attackers like 5's, Secure, Kit, Dooku. I prioritize Dooku because he is the worst with ability block and stun, plus the fastest kill. In an ideal situation I start these just after a Lumi heal so their counter attack damage is not so impactful with the heal over time. #5 Weaker healers like JC Talia. I leave them for 1 reason only. To streatch out my cooldown reset. I run Barriss lead often so I gain health every turn. If you weaken one under 50% they will not attack they will use their heals. Botrh are slower and low HP so you can use them to your advantage to heal up and get those cooldowns reset. Remember this is 1 fight in a string. You ideally want to walk out as healthy as possible with as little cooldown as possible. #6 Barriss, Ben, Chewie, Phasma Your high HP toons. These are weak hitters with huge HP. They allow if you have Barriss to heal without using heal. They allow Cooldowns to diminish. I call it regroup time. Sometimes if it is Say Ben and Barriss I'll go back and forth, let Barriss heal them so it drags out. Though I run a Barriss lead so I gain health every turn. If you run another lead gague it. Is the minor damage you take from those very slow toons worth getting your healers cooldown reset or down to 1 or 2 from 5? Ok so that is pretty much my order. I know I left some out, but you can factor them in with similar toons tier I have her. So now questions you might have. Why Phasma so late? Well to me she does not hit that hard. Once the big players are dead Her victory March and her AOE are nothing too scary, nor is her basic. I use Barriss so I heal good. You may want to put her in Tier 3 or 4 depending on your teams build. My team has a lot of self healing and turn based healing. Shawn they have more than one big gun?? Threat analysis. Rey and Maul got to go. Rey so fast, so deadly. Maul if he gets that AOE, or heaven forbid gets a kill shot you are up the creek. Here is the thing. Maul is very slow. If you can take the other cannon out in a couple hits and have decent strikers you can still get Maul. GS is tough. He is lethal with the assist, short cooldown, and self buff, but he has the highest HP of the cannons. Unless you get a crit with say Sid and a Massive first shot with a GS yourself he will live that 1-2 punch and hit you. so you wasted the attack. If there are 2 cannons and he is one I bite the bullet and take his hit, because he is the hardest cannon to kill. Rey is my first target always. I'll typically go by speed/threat/my team analysis. QGJ not leading is 137. Will I kill him before he hits me? If yes he dies, if not I target the slower cannon. ***There are so many combos and variables so if you post a multi cannon build you see that gives you trouble and what you typically run and if you want other options available I'll do a custom. There are just so many combos*** Shawn they have Poe, Han, or Chewie. Chewie is a chump, love him, but he is no threat but a damage spoonge. He is slow. You can typically get your top threat or 2 gone before the hairball taunts. Similar with Han, but Han messes with your turn meter making his team able to attack more, thus making a tier 3 or 4 threat a bigger one. Poe is just awesome still. Poe is 142. Know your speeds, know the new speed system. Only 8 go before Poe without leader Boost. Know your team, know their speeds. You know Poe will taunt. so if you run Dooku try to stun him. If it fails retreat right away and go again. I run Barriss, Sid, Lumi, GS, Dooku as my main run. I typically will toss my stun at Lumi, high % stun. Why? So she can't heal Poe as I am destroying him. I will then Basic on the cannon with Sid and GS Special to kill. Two threats I'll evaluate. If they have GS and 86 I will toss my stun at one of them. Fail, retreat try other, fail, send in fodder to take the hits then go in follow strategy. ****There are so many combos here so again a specific Poe build you see with your team and options if you like and I'll tailor it to you**** Basically you want every attack to count. I look at my arena and my GW fights as a mix of chess and surgery. You need strategy, plan several moves and possible outcomes ahead and attack with surgical precision and skill. This is a war of attrition. You need to manage your heals and your specials and utilize every attack to it's fullest potential. I know I offered the Multi Cannon build, and the Poe build to tailor. Any build that gives you grief that you see commonly if you post it with your team and some options at disposal I'll tailor to you. Please when posting your team do Level, *, Gear Level, and ability Level for best results. #Post#: 1851-------------------------------------------------- Re: GW Hit List By: Panna Date: March 9, 2016, 4:10 pm --------------------------------------------------------- Awesome thread DMS! This will definitely help me with future campaign's. Keep it up!! #Post#: 1852-------------------------------------------------- Re: GW Hit List By: Dizz A Real Date: March 9, 2016, 4:32 pm --------------------------------------------------------- Love this. Thanks DMS!! #Post#: 1857-------------------------------------------------- Re: GW Hit List By: Popcorn Wilcho Date: March 10, 2016, 1:23 am --------------------------------------------------------- Brilliant info DMS -- thanks! Been on here a few weeks now reading and digesting all The info on here and trying to put it into practise! Well guess what i just completed my first GW!!! Whoop whoop! It started to sink in about retreating and trying different leaders with my Set up! Amazingwhat a difference it makes! Even beat 2 sets of level 70 purples on theway and im only level 67!! Quite chuffed with my self!! 😊 Point im trying to make is if i can do it -- anyone can! Its all down to people like you DMS that put it out there for us to read!! Big big thankyou to you all! Synergies ive no idea on and im still trying to get my head round how i an sometimes lose two toons just by showing up! Haha! But that will come! Good luck everyone and long live the rebellion!! #Post#: 1858-------------------------------------------------- Re: GW Hit List By: DarthMasterShawn Date: March 10, 2016, 8:45 am --------------------------------------------------------- [quote author=Popcorn Wilcho link=topic=252.msg1857#msg1857 date=1457594609] Brilliant info DMS -- thanks! Been on here a few weeks now reading and digesting all The info on here and trying to put it into practise! Well guess what i just completed my first GW!!! Whoop whoop! It started to sink in about retreating and trying different leaders with my Set up! Amazingwhat a difference it makes! Even beat 2 sets of level 70 purples on theway and im only level 67!! Quite chuffed with my self!! 😊 Point im trying to make is if i can do it -- anyone can! Its all down to people like you DMS that put it out there for us to read!! Big big thankyou to you all! Synergies ive no idea on and im still trying to get my head round how i an sometimes lose two toons just by showing up! Haha! But that will come! Good luck everyone and long live the rebellion!! [/quote] Awesome job finishing the first. Re-rolling helps a lot at times. Even if you are going to win but with a loss or some heavy damage. Take note of what you did to win, then re-roll and go a different way to see if you copme out better. 1st completetion feels awesome, doesn't it? I have Tanks with taunt coming next, but will also do synergies, obvious and not so. #Post#: 1859-------------------------------------------------- Re: GW Hit List By: Popcorn Wilcho Date: March 10, 2016, 10:04 am --------------------------------------------------------- Yeah in all honesty i was buzzin with a self satisfied grin on my face!! Felt like a kid again!! Haha! Cheers DMS!! #Post#: 1860-------------------------------------------------- Re: GW Hit List By: SpongeSim Date: March 10, 2016, 11:40 am --------------------------------------------------------- Awesome post! I usually focus on Sid so that i can get away with full health then the "heavy" healer bc if foes stay up long enough they are more probable to cause more dmg. It's not much of a tactic though if they kill one or more of my main players, esp since i can't form a decent B team yet. #Post#: 1877-------------------------------------------------- Re: GW Hit List By: V00dude Date: March 18, 2016, 9:00 pm --------------------------------------------------------- Great info! I'd also agree that Phasma is little threat. Early on I thought she was super tough...but so was an Ewok team I fought along the way in one of the Darkside battles...Now I wish I wouldn't have spent so much on her. She's useful in passing a team or 2 in SW, but I prefer QGJ as lead. Sid sucks as an opponent, and he seems like he's in every battle from start to finish with varying degrees of potency. *****************************************************