Subj : Teller of Tall Tales
To   : All
From : Lee Lofaso
Date : Thu Oct 22 2015 04:19 pm

Hello Everybody,

A conversation was overheard between two clowns
in an obscure echo concerning another obscure echo -

Subject: BBBS ECHO
Date: Thu Oct 22 2015 02:22 am
From: BOB KLAHN
To: MARK LEWIS

EC> There is a long story about Lee Lofaso and Bob Klahn
EC> pulling a stunt in the coffee_klatsch echo many years ago.
EC> It may date back to that. It may go back further than that.
EC> I don't know. But it ended with Lee being disappointed and
EC> unhappy.

He really knows nothing about it. The coffee-klatsch echo used
to be a very friendly discussion echo, focused mainly on having
fun and discussing anything that could be made fun of.

After a while participation dropped off, and eventually the echo
died and went unlisted. A couple years later Roger Nelson
revived the echo by using it, but didn't bother to relist it. I
suggested he should relist it several times, but he insisted
that was not necessary.

After a while Lee Lofaso tried to list the echo, but got
rejected because Nelson had relisted it just before he tried.

Some of the flamers on this echo have repeated the claim that
Lee had tried to hijack the echo, but it was not listed and the
new echolist was not out showing that Roger had listed it.

I had nothing to do with Lee listing the echo other than
recommending to Roger that he list the echo. Our fear was
flamers would get into the echo and take it over. Which some did
get in but Roger had listed it and let them know that he was the
moderator and it was a no flame echo. They left. Not one
remained.

However, the hostility the flamers stirred up, and their
repeated accusations, poisoned the prevously friendly
discussions in the echo, and a number of us left, including his
co-moderator, whose name I can't recall right now.

                   -=end quote=-

"After a while Lee Lofaso tried to list the echo, but got
rejected because Nelson had relisted it just before he tried."

The echo was not listed.  I relisted the echo.  Joe Bruchis
posted the entry publicly, for all to see, in the echo itself.
A week or so later I emailed the password to Roger Nelson so
that he could list the echo for himself.  Roger then posted
that entry publicly, for all to see, in the echo itself.

Ross Cassell, in his capacity as fidonet administrator,
and chief censor, deleted my previous listing of the echo.

Bob Klahn and Ross Cassell are working as a team.  Their
latest endeavor is to steal this echo.  Basically by using
the same means of deceit.

Only I'm not playing.

What was a joke in the coffee klasch echo was accepted as
being a joke, and everybody moved on and had a great time
afterwards.

But some people do not know when to stop, or how to
differentiate between what is important and what is not
important.

"Some of the flamers on this echo have repeated the claim that
Lee had tried to hijack the echo, but it was not listed and the
new echolist was not out showing that Roger had listed it."

Had that been the case, then Joe Bruchis would not have
been able to have posted the entry in the coffee klatsch
echo.

Those with archives can check out these facts for themselves.
Those without archives will just have to take my word for it.
After all, Ross Cassell has deleted the post that Joe Bruchis
made showing my listing of the coffee klastsch echo as having
been successful.

"I had nothing to do with Lee listing the echo other than
recommending to Roger that he list the echo. Our fear was
flamers would get into the echo and take it over. Which
some did get in but Roger had listed it and let them know
that he was the moderator and it was a no flame echo. They
left. Not one remained."

I listed the echo in order to save it, else Roger would
have lost it forever to the forces of evil.  Had Bob kept
his mouth shut, or at least used netmail/email rather
than go about making public comments, there would have
been no need for me to have listed the echo.  But that's
okay.  I saved it.  For Roger, and for everyone.

"However, the hostility the flamers stirred up, and their
repeated accusations, poisoned the prevously friendly
discussions in the echo, and a number of us left, including
his co-moderator, whose name I can't recall right now."

Frank Vest shut down his bbs and most never bothered to
return to fidonet.  There never was a co-moderator, but
there is one individual who remained once everybody had
left - Roy Witt.

--Lee

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