Subj : I moved to Mystic! To : paulie420 From : Accession Date : Thu Feb 29 2024 06:37 pm On Thu, 29 Feb 2024 01:10:42 -0800, Paulie420 -> Accession wrote: p> I wouldn't have thought that Nelgin would have sent the message they did - I did. p> I didn't put 2 + 2 together and realize that the poster who 'left sync for p> mystic' was the same guy who wanted to create a phreaker FTN/message network. Me either. I didn't realize it until DM posted the message. p> Listen - 4 years ago I was the new guy... while MANY new guys come and go, some p> genuinely want to be in the BBS community. I think we should support that. I completely agree. p> That being said; I think Kurisu will find help on FTNs like tqwNet; deon and p> MeaTLoTioN know ALL about HUBS and FTN networks and are always willing to help p> explain things... they won't do it for you, or give everything on a silver p> platter - but there is help and support out there. Most definitely. However, once someone realizes you want them to do all the work for you - rather than 'help', just so you can shut your system(s) down within 6 months with no skin in the game, is a different story. I've had this happen way too many times. p> If we push them all away, they'll go... away. SOME people just want to land p> on advice and community - at first, thats a bunch of stupid questions that we p> all have experienced... then, a year later its still blah blah, but with a p> little more knowledge - and 4 years down the line its someone who is a part of p> our community. Agreed. But if you're not willing to RTFM and/or take the help given and thrive with it, others will soon give up - realizing that you're not putting in any effort. p> For the future of BBSing, we can't just help old heads who have ran systems p> since dialup. We have to embrace the new folks and help them; SOME will be the p> future, when we're not here. Unfortunately, I'm considered an 'old head' these days. Although, I can brag that I once had an apprentice named Avon, and he is still around. I'd argue that he didn't turn out all that bad, either. :) Regards, Nick .... "Take my advice, I don't use it anyway." --- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:115.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderb * Origin: _thePharcyde distribution system (Wisconsin) (21:1/200) .