Subj : Re: Universal Health Care
To   : Nightfox
From : Arelor
Date : Tue Jul 07 2026 09:16:52

  Re: Re: Universal Health Care
  By: Nightfox to MRO on Mon Jul 06 2026 08:18 am

 >
 > I think a counterpoint to that is that, at least in my industry, layoffs are
 > fairly common.  You can't rely on having a job consistently, and not having
 > health insurance because you were laid off (not by any choice of your own)
 > could potentially be a serious issue.

That is part of a bigger problem, in that the West is no longer productive enough to provide for a stable domestic economy for employees. And that is a fair complaint.

But then the argument can be made that economies that fail to provide that cannot provide for socialized anything.

Extreme argument everybody can understand is that if you run a rich domestic homestead it is easy to keep feeding hens who are not laying eggs anymore and keep them around as pets. When you are poor you cannot afford freeloaders, you need all of your coop producing because that is the way you can eat yourself and sustain the hens who are actually useful.

There is this idea that the West is rich enough to keep non-productive hens around but a quick look at the standing of different demographic segments tell a different story. I think most people in my age bracket cannot afford a damn girlfriend, much less things like independent housing. Last time I checked I was top 15% in statistics and when I talk about my lifestyle to people in a vaccuum I have people think I am barely floating above poverty line. I don't think that is true but that comes to show what the situation is.

The easy answer at this point is to then steal the money of the top 5% to pay for the services of the rest of the population, and the issue with that problem is that money does not get things done. Production, manufacturing and services do. The government could steal all of my bosses' money to put a bandaid on the structural problems of society, but then it would have to get doctors, hospitals, infrastructure, things that are put in place in great part due to the people you just stole from and who won't build anything else for you ever again.



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