Subj : ncurses
To   : Maurice Kinal
From : Nicholas Boel
Date : Mon Sep 11 2017 19:30:30

Hello Maurice,

On Mon Sep 11 2017 23:57:50, Maurice Kinal wrote to Nicholas Boel:

 NB>> The latest version on github is now ncurses-6.0+20170909-1

 MK> I am using the original GNU release which at ftp.gnu.org the datetime
 MK> stamp shows "Aug 09  2015".  Currently I am not patching it.  Also at
 MK> one point I was using the "--with-abi-version=5" when building but
 MK> that was a couple years ago and since then most of the apps requiring
 MK> libncurses have long since caught up to the changes and I would have
 MK> to rebuild them in order to properly check and make sure the
 MK> version-reversion doesn't break anything.

And that one has the same issues as what I'm having?

Or at some point did you try a newer version and then go back to a 2015 
release?

These days, ncurses development has moved to github and that seems to be where 
the Archlinux maintainers are getting it from.

 NB>> Golded does indeed have a compile option for wide ncurses support

 MK> I seem to recall that and as of my last attempt with golded none of it
 MK> worked.  I may try again if I use the "--with-abi-version=5" option in
 MK> the future.  Definetly thinking about it.

There's currently only one version newer than the one I'm using, so since I was 
able to downgrade it easily and put a block on my package manager to not update 
it until I tell it otherwise, I'll just wait for the next version to come out 
and give it a shot.

 MK> Me too and might actually trace the change(s) from a kernel version
 MK> prior to the release of 6.0 and compare that to a new kernel version's
 MK> menuconfig usage.

I'm not sure what you would find prior to the release of 6.0, I've been using 
6.0 for quite some time now without issue, until a recent September 2nd 
upgrade. Somewhere during the past 4 months something changed. Archlinux never 
introduced any of the packages between May 27th and Sept 2nd though, so I don't 
know exactly where, when, or how it happened.

 NB>> Archlinux IRC I get responses like:

 MK> Not quite as bad as some of the responses seen on Ubuntu wikis.  For
 MK> far too many of them even an xterm is unheard of.  Kids these days eh?

Mind you, Ubuntu is one of the main distros introducing new people to Linux. I 
usually expect that from the Ubuntu forums. But Archlinux? <sigh>

 MK> If I break down and try a --with-abi-version=5 default ncurses I'll
 MK> let you know if that fixes the golded issue.  Also if it doesn't break
 MK> anything else of greater importance I may go back to that instead.  I
 MK> personally don't use ncurses so it really doesn't matter to me but
 MK> there are apps I do care about that do and as long as they are happy
 MK> with 5.9 then that might be the best way to proceed.

 MK> I have my doubts though.

I don't think that would have much to do with my issue anyways. My issue 
happened during one of the most recent patches. Patched 6.0 didn't give me any 
issues until this last update.

Regards,
Nick

.... "Не знаю. Я здесь только работаю."
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