Subj : Asia/Asian?
To   : August Abolins
From : Carol Shenkenberger
Date : Mon Mar 21 2022 16:16:57

  Re: Asia/Asian?
  By: August Abolins to Christian Jacob on Mon Mar 14 2022 09:34 am

 > Hello Christian!
 > 
 > ** On Monday 14.03.22 - 08:34, you wrote to Carol:
 > 
 >  >>>>> Getting started with Telegram is just TWO steps:
 >  >>>>>
 >  >>>>> [1] Install Telegram
 >  >>>>> [2] Send %HELP and %LIST to the @Fido2telebot to get
 >  >>> started!
 >  >>>>>
 >  >>>>> Do Aftershock/HotdogEd make it easier than that?  :D
 > 
 > 
 >  CJ> ALthough FidoNet is not as popular as in the 20s anymore
 >  CJ> and I really do understand that people who actually still
 >  CJ> use it would love to see more users come back or even
 >  CJ> experience FidoNet the first time, I don't think that
 >  CJ> telegram is the best way.
 > 
 > Telegram (+ @Fido2telebot) may not be the best final solution..
 > but it's a useful option and a step forward to reach smartphone
 > users.
 > 
 > 
 >  CJ> It IS modern and well adopted, but personally, I don't
 >  CJ> trust telegram. Also, this platform has quite a tendency
 >  CJ> to attract people with kind of a weird view on the world.
 > 
 > User's of Telegram don't get any of the "weird view" channels
 > unless they actually look for then and join them.  There are no
 > ads promoting that stuff unlike the "Suggestions" system found
 > on Facebook for example.  You can be certain that Facebook is
 > to be trusted much less than Telegram.  ;)
 > 
 > The Fidonet groups are private. In otherwords, searching for
 > "asian_link" in the standard S)earch feature won't turn
 > anything up.  Prospective participants need to use the
 > specially crafted invite-link that the @Fido2telebot provides
 > following the %LINK command.
 > 
 > This privacy also makes sure that no robots or spammers can
 > post anything.
 > 
 > The one for this echo is:
 > 
 > ASIAN_LINK (https://t.me/+TlC5K7EkqxOR8E4u) - ASIAN_LINK is a
 > friendly international Fidonet chat echo.  All are welcome to
 > participate.
 > 
 > You can see the little intro-page on the web before you join!
 > 
 > 
 >  CJ> Lately, I thought that reviving FidoNet especially in the
 >  CJ> eastern reagion of Zone 2 would allow people from
 >  CJ> respective countries to communicate with the "outside"
 >  CJ> world bypassing their governments' control over the
 >  CJ> internet.
 > 
 > Telegram on it's own can also be used to make live-voice
 > "calls" between contacts.  It's rather quite efficient that
 > way.
 > 
 >  CJ> Solutions such as Telegram would not fit into that idea
 >  CJ> though. :)
 > 
 > I'll use it to primarily have it notify me when a post is made
 > in a favourite echo. Then, it's a quick way to just take a look
 > at the messages from the convenience of the phone that might be
 > my my beside.
 > 
 > If I want to engage in a reply, I simply use the desktop
 > version of the app on my computer - as I am doing now - 'cuz
 > typing all this is much easier with a full-size keyboard.
 > 
 > As people are introduced to the content on some basic Fidonet
 > echos, hopefully they can be steered toward other tools (nntp,
 > offline readers, bbsing, etc) to get a more emmersive
 > experience of echomail - if they want - just as you have done
 > with the newly revived and well-supported Winpoint!
 > 
 > 
 > --
 >   ../|ug
 > 

I think if telegram existed when Russel Tiedt was running Z5, they might still
be here todaay as a zone.  In the end, it was a collection trying to push
fidonet over packet radio and some other oddball thing explained as related to
ham radio related signals.

  xxcarol
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