Subj : vertlogs/insulation/water To : AUGUST ABOLINS From : Rob Mccart Date : Wed Feb 12 2025 01:05:00 It's about -17c (+1f) here at the moment. I was just at 'your' weather web site and they are pretty much calling for some snow every day for the next week, and the local radio station said we can expect up to 40 cm (16 inches) of snow on Thursday, so winter is holding it's own for a while yet. I had to keep my speed up and plow through some decent sized drifts getting to town for shopping today. That's on the little one lane road coming in here about 1/2 mile long. The main roads were cleared pretty well. I expected the plow the neighbours hired to do the road while I was gone but it was the same when I drove home a few hours later. At times I wish I'd gotten the all wheel drive version of my Ford Escape.. The people 2 houses over must keep the road plowed for insurance purposes they say and they've pretty much said I can just take advantage of that since no extra plowing is required to where I park, but I will likely give them a few hundred dollars when I see them next since it saves me a lot of money if I had to pay the full cost. The plow guy also goes out of his way to keep me as open as possible so I'll have to do something for him too.. RM> They spray it under a lot of buildings here and a thin RM> layer expands to a couple of inches of foam. They can RM> force it between walls as well and let it expand to fill RM> the area but with the unconventional way my place is built RM> that would be difficult and likely not work well leaving a RM> lot of gaps. AA>How big is the cabin? Is the floorplan a plain rectangle >shape? The place is only 400 sq ft and floor is a square 20' x 20'.. AA>Why not just build a skirt all around the exposed parts and >then fill the entire underside with foam? Given that parts of it is more than 3 feet off the ground that's not easily doable. 'Boxing' in the sides doesn't usually stand up very well since a lot of animals want to get in there for various reasons. It would have to be done with masonry of some sort to be solid enough and on uneven bedrock that's tricky and it would be amazingly expensive I'd expect. RM> ..I got rolled insulation, about 3 inches RM> of fiberglass, about 3.5 feet wide with a fairly heavy reinforced RM> vinyl on the bottom side.. AA>Sounds like it's time for a fresh redo of the same? Yes, there are a few areas where it's falling apart due mostly to animals either trying to steal the insulation for nests or build a nest between the insulation and the floor. As I said, it would have been a lot better if I'd closed it in with plywood back when I first did it. AA>> How about bottles/jugs onto a sled? RM> If I were having a lot more trouble I'd consider RM> something, but trying to fill bottles from a hole in the RM> ice would be a lot more time consuming than filling a RM> bucket or two. AA>Some sort of portable pump with one end that can go right in a >jug. It's not so bad as it is.. It takes only seconds to fill a couple of pails and it's a bit of work carrying them about 250 feet to the cottage but on a bad day I can stop and rest a minute once or twice and 95% of the time I do manage to walk it non-stop. The snow is a bigger problem since you can't really trudge along carrying that much weight if you're pushing your feet through 2 feet of snow as well so I have to shovel a path and pack the snow down where it is deepest, but that 'ditch' is unfortunately the first place that blowing snow will collect too so it has to be at least partially redone fairly frequently.. --- * SLMR Rob * It is better to wear out than to rust out * Origin: capitolcityonline.net * Telnet/SSH:2022/HTTP (1:2320/105) .