Subj : Re: soda pop deposits
To   : Jim Weller
From : Dave Drum
Date : Sun Sep 04 2022 05:02:02

-=> JIM WELLER wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-

 RH> Had to pay deposit on the cans so tried to keep consumption down.

 RH> The HI one came out while we were there; cut our (my) consumption
 RH> dramatically.

 JW> But the deposit is refundable if you bring the empties back to the
 JW> store. (These days of course one takes all their empties back to a
 JW> recycling centre, not the retailer.)

Does the recycling centre refund the deposit(s) or just buy the cans
at current scrap price?

Illinois does not have a recycling/container deposit in place. But I do
have a can crusher and recycle soda and beer cans for their scrap value
(hovers between 69c and 74c/lb)

 DD> When I was a youngster ... 2c per bottle ... I used to collect
 DD> discarded soda bottles

 JW> Same. Our country road ran parallel to the highway which connected
 JW> the interprovincial bridge and the nearest village, which at the
 JW> time was in a dry township whereas in Quebec, the taverns were
 JW> plentiful, stayed open late and had off sales (they sold chilled
 JW> cases of beer to go about a buck a box more than the liquor store
 JW> sold warm ones). Drunks enjoying a cold one on the way home and
 JW> avoiding the highway would litter our ditches with empty late night
 JW> beer bottles so it was rich pickings. My buddy and I would do a
 JW> cleanup walk every spring as soon as the snow melted with potato
 JW> and flour sacks. and then beg a parent to fire up a pickup and pick
 JW> up all the bags at the end of the day. We used to do six miles in
 JW> the course of two weekends.

 RH> never let us kids "scrounge"

 DD> What scrounging? It was clean-up. Or enterprise.

 JW> Agreed. Scrounging is the theft of things left unattended. We
 JW> weren't going into people's back porches to steal their recyclables,
 JW> just collecting castaway stuff.

 DD> The container deposit laws were designed to cut down on litter,
 DD> waste, and depletion of resources. Seems to have helped.

 JW> THe NWT has deposits of various sizes on all beverages containers,
 JW> including 4 liter plastic jugs for milk. Because of the high
 JW> trucking costs getting the used containers back to where they can be
 JW> cleaned and reused or melted down our recycling centres here only
 JW> return half the deposit and the operators try to make a living
 JW> trucking crushed and shredded empties back to Alberta in bulk.

It has been yonks since I have seen refillable beverage bottles in common
usage. We seem to have become a disposable society. When I was doing
home brewing in the 70s and early 80s it was getting hard to source 12
ounce bottle to fill with my output.

 JW> I have not come across quick cooking barley. Apparently it's
 JW> partially precooked, steamed and then dried, not unlike quick and
 JW> instant oats and rice.

 JW> MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

 JW>       Title: Lo-Fat Quick Beefy Mushroom and Barley Soup
 JW>  Categories: Soups, Beef, Groundmeat, Grains, Mushrooms
 JW>       Yield: 4 Servings

Beef & Barley soup is one of my favourites. Here's my tried and true
recipe:

MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06
 
      Title: Beef-Barley Soup
 Categories: Soups, Beef, Vegetables, Grains, Herbs
      Yield: 6 Servings
 
  1 1/2 lb Cheap cut of beef; 1/4" dice
      1 tb Oil
      1 c  Thin sliced carrots *
      1 c  Sliced celery
      1 md Onion; thin sliced
    1/2 c  Coarse chopped bell pepper
    1/4 c  Snipped fresh parsley
           +=OR=+
      2 tb Dried parsley
      4 c  Beef broth
     16 oz Can diced tomatoes
      1 c  Jarred spaghetti sauce
    2/3 c  Pearl barley; uncooked
  1 1/2 ts Dry crushed basil
      1 ts Salt
    1/4 ts Ground black pepper
 
  In a large skillet brown meat, half at a time, in hot
  oil. Drain well.
  
  Meanwhile in crockpot combine carrots, celery, onion,
  green pepper, and parsley. Add broth, undrained
  tomatoes, spaghetti sauce, barley, basil, salt, and
  pepper.
  
  Stir in browned meat. Cover crock pot; cook on LOW
  setting for 10-12 hours or on HIGH setting for 4 1/2
  to 5 hours. Skim off fat.
  
  * You can use "baby" carrots pressed through your
  Vidalia Onion Chopper (as seen on TV). -- UDD
  
  Source: Better Homes and Gardens New Crockery Cookbook
  
  Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen
 
MMMMM

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