Subj : weather and climate To : RUTH HAFFLY From : JIM WELLER Date : Wed Oct 12 2022 23:15:00 -=> Quoting Ruth Haffly to Jim Weller <=- JW> the greenhouse effect was known to scientists 200 years ago. JW> computer modeling predicted very accurately the overall planet JW> warming and the resulting changes in climate and ocean behavior JW> we are seeing today. By the 1980s the effects became very apparent JW> to and easily observed by the average layman. RH> so called climatologists claiming that we're cooling RH> down instead of heating up. (G) Sometimes you don't know who to RH> believe. The science is firmly established beyond a reasonable doubt and it should be obvious to everyone by now: the polar ice caps are shrinking, glaciers are disappearing and extreme weather event damage (including larger and more frequent forest fires) is increasing dramatically. Just ask anybody in the insurance industry on that last one. Anyone still denying the reality of this is either deranged, deluded or willfully blind. In this week's news alone we have learned that Canadian salmon returning to spawn are dieing off before they get to the spawning grounds because the rivers are noticeably warmer than they are used to. Meanwhile, Alaska is cancelling entire crab harvests this year in an effort to rebuild stocks as last year's catch was so pitifully small. Once again warmer waters are a factor. And today Canadian scientists are reporting that Arctic Ocean is not only getting warmer with less ice cover but its acidity is increasing as a result and plankton (the underlying base of the whole ocean food chain) is being negatively affected. Also shellfish shells are becoming thinner and more fragile. This is all quite alarming. RH> Unless the kids ripped off the tools from FDNY. Read the articles beneath the photos. The fire dept opens the hydrants for a few minutes. Little kids are not breaking into fire halls and stealing heavy tools. Have you seen the size of the monkey wrench they use? RH> We saw, in AZ, especially in/around Phoenix so many green yards. RH> isn't as good a place for those with asthma as it used to be Exactly. It proves my point. Cheers Jim ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.0pr5 * Origin: Fidonet Since 1991 www.doccyber.org bbs.docsplace.org (1:135/392) .