Subj : Apples part 2 To : Dave Drum From : Ruth Haffly Date : Mon Oct 21 2024 13:28:01 Hi Dave, DD> Mom never regained consciousness after she went down. I remarked to my DD> brother that she was essentially "done" when my father died. And he DD> then reminded me that she passed on the 3rd anniversary of his death. RH> Sounds like she died of a broken heart. DD> Pretty much. It was like she didn't care any more. She asked me to DD> move in with her - I suspect mostly to help ride herd on my younger DD> brother. When she passed I became his guardian. How old was your brother at the time? My parents both passed away when all of their children were grown/gone so there was no need for any guardianship issues. DD> I can't recall ever having eaten an Empire. But, there are lots of DD> cultivars of apple out there. Did you know that the apples produced DD> from the trees spread by the mythic "Johhny Appleseed" (John Chapman) DD> were not meant for eating or cooking but for making cider - especially DD> hard cider. That's according to an article I read in the Smithsonian DD> magazine. RH> Didn't know that, but not surprised. Probably a good number of apples RH> went into baked goods or eaten as is as well as being made into cider, RH> which turned into vinegar as it aged. (G) DD> From what I read the apples planted by Chapman were sour and bitter DD> and fit only for making cider (and ultimately vinegar). Much was said DD> about hard cider and little about sweet cider. So, I dunno. Probably DD> would have fit right in with British scrumpy. Sounds like it so all of those folks that came over from that part of England would have been happy. Probably passed along to their neighbors how to make cider and let it age into vinegar. DD> Scrumpy is a type of cider originating in the West of England, DD> particularly the West Country. Traditionally, the dialect term DD> "scrumpy" was used DD> to refer to what was otherwise called "rough", a harsh cider made from DD> unselected apples. DD> You likely wouldn't drink it because of the alcohol. I've tried it and DD> don't care to repeat the experience. But, I might cook with it if DD> there were some on hand, Thanks for the head's up. I've not done a lot of cooking with cider/apple juice in any form tho I did get a recipe for apple cake from a friend that starts by reducing a quart of cider down to about a cup. --- Catch you later, Ruth rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28 .... The first rule of intelligent tinkering: Save all the parts! --- PPoint 3.01 * Origin: Sew! That's My Point (1:396/45.28) .