Subj : Re: Apples part 2 To : Ruth Haffly From : Dave Drum Date : Wed Oct 23 2024 05:06:00 -=> Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=- DD> Pretty much. It was like she didn't care any more. She asked me to DD> move in with her - I suspect mostly to help ride herd on my younger DD> brother. When she passed I became his guardian. RH> How old was your brother at the time? My parents both passed away when RH> all of their children were grown/gone so there was no need for any RH> guardianship issues. He was 14. So I raised/supervised/advised him for four years before he joined the Navy where he learned two widely divergent trades. Cooking and underwater welding. He was running the kitchen at the Pensacola Naval Air Station's officer's club when he fund that underwater welding paid astounding amounts of $$$ per hour so he gave up cheffing and went to working on the offshore oil rigs on a contract basis. It paid well enough that he only had to work a few days a month to provide for his wife and children with lots left over for "projects". DD> I can't recall ever having eaten an Empire. But, there are lots of DD> cultivars of apple out there. Did you know that the apples produced DD> from the trees spread by the mythic "Johhny Appleseed" (John Chapman) DD> were not meant for eating or cooking but for making cider - especially DD> hard cider. That's according to an article I read in the Smithsonian DD> magazine. RH> Didn't know that, but not surprised. Probably a good number of apples RH> went into baked goods or eaten as is as well as being made into cider, RH> which turned into vinegar as it aged. (G) DD> From what I read the apples planted by Chapman were sour and bitter DD> and fit only for making cider (and ultimately vinegar). Much was said DD> about hard cider and little about sweet cider. So, I dunno. Probably DD> would have fit right in with British scrumpy. RH> Sounds like it so all of those folks that came over from that part of RH> England would have been happy. Probably passed along to their neighbors RH> how to make cider and let it age into vinegar. When I make cider vinegar I *always* add some "mother" to the raw juice and - Presto - ChangeO ... cider vinegar. Bv)= DD> Scrumpy is a type of cider originating in the West of England, DD> particularly the West Country. Traditionally, the dialect term DD> "scrumpy" was used to refer to what was otherwise called "rough", DD> a harsh cider made from unselected apples. DD> You likely wouldn't drink it because of the alcohol. I've tried it and DD> don't care to repeat the experience. But, I might cook with it if DD> there were some on hand, RH> Thanks for the head's up. I've not done a lot of cooking with RH> cider/apple juice in any form tho I did get a recipe for apple cake RH> from a friend that starts by reducing a quart of cider down to about a RH> cup. Sounds like an apple syrup. Now, that's a syrup I'd eat on my waffles. MMMMM---- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06 Title: Apple Syrup Categories: Five, Condiments, Fruits Yield: 1 /2 cup 4 c Apple cider Recipe courtesy of The Red Lion Inn In a large pot, bring the cider to a boil over medium-high heat. Boil the cider until it has reduced to a thin syrup (you should have about 1/2 cup), approximately 25 minutes. Cool and store at room temperature. Makes: 1/2 cup This recipe was provided by a chef, restaurant or culinary professional. It has not been tested for home use. RECIPE FROM: https://www.foodnetwork.com Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives MMMMM .... If ignorance is bliss, why aren't there more happy people? --- MultiMail/Win v0.52 * Origin: SouthEast Star Mail HUB - SESTAR (1:3634/12) .