Subj : Sourdough Whole-Wheat Biscuits To : Ben Collver From : Ruth Haffly Date : Mon Jun 30 2025 12:09:37 Hi Ben, RH> professionally trained in counseling but have done a lot of "kitchen RH> table counseling" over the years. It can be better than paying a RH> professionaly trained counselor--a cuppa tea or mug of coffee at the RH> kitchen table may not solve the world's problems but may help you put RH> yours into a better perspective. BC> For sure! I read the book Focusing and in it Eugene Gendlin writes BC> about studying professional counseling on a large scale. The BC> researchers found equality of outcomes across all modalities. When BC> narrowing down the BC> factors associated with successful outcomes, the single largest factor BC> was the attitude that the client brought with them. Focusing is a BC> process BC> based on those findings. Sounds interesting. The client's attitude does have quite the influence on the outcome. I can see where differing attitudes would produce different results or lack thereof. BC> I took a co-counseling course where the instructor said that the BC> majority of counseling is basically active listening. She said that BC> people are so hungry to be listened to, that if you are a good BC> listener then strangers will follow you around in the streets. What is co-counseling? It's a term I'm not familiar with, but then too, most of my classes were in the early 70s. BTW, Steve (my husband) says that yes, I am a good listener. BC> I have read co-counseling books from the 1970's and i think some of BC> their more experimental stuff was harmful or at least irresponsible. BC> They've cleaned it up a lot since then. All that aside, i see it as a BC> DIY BC> approach, which is right up my alley. If we lived in the same part of BC> the world, i'd love to share a cup of tea with you from time to time. Where is your part of the world? We do travel, most often in a camper. We do carry teas, other than my morning British Blend, in the camper as Steve will sometimes brew up a cuppa non caffienated at night. We also carry coffee (his morning drink) and hot cocoa mix for some of those really cold nights we occaisionally encounter. This last trip we had to pack for mid spring in the northeast (still some chilly days and nights) to summer in the southwest (hot). --- Catch you later, Ruth rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28 .... If you focus only on the thorns you will miss the beauty of the rose. --- PPoint 3.01 * Origin: Sew! That's My Point (1:396/45.28) .