Subj : Extra Sweet [1] To : Dave Drum From : Ruth Haffly Date : Sun Oct 19 2025 17:05:57 Hi Dave, DD> Saccharine is about the only one f the "artificial" sweetners I avoid. DD> cancer in lab rats. As near as I could figure an average-sized humern DD> bean would have to drink the equivalent of a barrel (55 gallons) of it DD> in a 24 hour period to equal the overdoses fed to the poor lab RH> I remember reading something along those lines years ago. AFAIK, I've RH> never bought anything with saccharine in it but may have unknowingly RH> consumed it when I was younger. I do recall my folks keeping a bottle RH> of the liquified version in their fridge for years, for the occaisional RH> times they drank iced tea. DD> I was introduced to it by my Grandmother. Little teeny-tiny white DD> pills (asbout 2 mg IIEC) and one could oversweeten a quart of iced DD> tea. It was in just about anything that was "diet" or "low Calorie" for a long time--until scientists got ahold of it and fed it to a lot of lab rats. I think it was the only "artificial sweetener" around, so it was very common for common folks to use. DD> 8<----- HACK ----->8 DD> Oh, I forgot. Ocean Spray has a version that has "FREE" in big caps ob DD> the label. That's what I stock. RH> We rarely buy fruit juices, drinking more water than anything else. RH> Some of the water is the flavored, sparkling stuff, with some real RH> fruit juice but a very small amount. We do have a couple jugs each of RH> white grape juice and apple juice left over from our anniversary RH> celebration. We'll probably cut them with plain sparkling water so as RH> not to get a big carb hit. Did that with the fig syrup I made this RH> summer, fig soda tastes pretty good. (G) DD> I do tomato juice and the cranberry juice - which my nephrologist DD> (kidney doc) recommended as being good in several ways for my kidney So far my kidneys seem to be doing well without cranberry juice. Had a scare a few years ago with some blood work that indicated maybe otherwise so my primary care dr. referred me to a nephrologist. He said all was well, just come back once a year to keep an eye on things. Last time I saw him, he suggested drinking more water (or whatever) to stay better hydrated; this was not too long after our most recent long cross country trip. DD> functions - and lemon juice to add to the water I drink. If I do drink DD> soda it'd as an accompaniment to a meal. Just for drinking, once I'm DD> done with my half- pot of coffee it's water w/lemon for the rest of DD> the day. Soda is generally only with meals, unless I really need hydration and water isn't reasonably available. Otherwise it's water, flavored or otherwise--at lunch (out) today it was with 2 slices of lemon. RH> on. I tried RH> to suggest some better subs for things but she RH> resisted RH> change. RH> Probably some of that was dementia starting to kick in but RH> she was RH> diagnosed diabeticc several years before that. Don't know RH> what her A1Cs RH> ran but morning b/g checks ran in the 140s. Dr. just RH> had her on RH> metformin. DD> Another thing that I do routinely is to use honey as a sweetner. DD> Especially in tea - hot or iced. It even makes the oil of bergamot in DD> Earl Gray tea almost palatable. Bv)= RH> We use that, sorgum and molasses. Any sugar I buy is brown, powdered, RH> raw or turbinado; main use of the latter two is in making jam or RH> preserves (which I eat very little of). DD> Not even on your PB&J sandwiches? Not even those. (G) DD> Title: Apple Rice Pudding DD> Categories: Diabetic, Desserts, Rice, Fruits DD> Yield: 6 Servings RH> Hmm, looks interesting. I use brown rice, jasmine rice or a rice blend RH> (put out by Lundberg). The brown would work the best all around of the RH> 3, jasmine and blend is for when I cook Asian or just want a different RH> side. DD> My default rice is bassmati (or Texmati). No special reason for it - DD> just fell into its use after buting a BIG (30#) bag at a Big Lots DD> store. Realised when I got it home that's a LOT of rice. Especially DD> for a single guy cooking mostly for himself. It freezes well, both raw and cooked. I've got some in the freezer I need to pull out this week and use, maybe in chicken soup now that the weather has cooled down. Also have to pull out some pumpkin next week to make a pumpkin roll for Steve's birthday. --- Catch you later, Ruth rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28 .... Mind... Mind... Let's see, I had one of those around here someplace. --- PPoint 3.01 * Origin: Sew! That's My Point (1:396/45.28) .