Subj : Re: obamas gun fight To : Tim Richardson From : alexander koryagin Date : Sun Jan 17 2016 19:27:30 Hi, Tim Richardson! I read your message from 14.01.2016 19:28 ak>>>> Small arms is useless for that purpose. TR>>> What makes you think all we've got is `small arms'? ak>> If the army use tanks, bombers, satellite, drones, spying ak>> equipment where can buy it? If you catch a tank it will be ak>> destroyed by a bomber withing minutes. TR> The cops in this country have military vehicles of sorts, even TR> armored personnel carriers. TR> One such up in Los Angeles was even equipped with a long battering TR> ram for breaking down the heavily reinforced doors of drug houses. I don't doubt that the cops are equipped very well. But we talk about common people's "right to keep and bear arms ... to keep an armed citizenry able to resist and overthrow a tyrannical government." TR>>> Yeah well... we like our guns, and we don't give a hoot in hell TR>>> what foreigners think about that. ak>> Such thoughts are probably spoken not only by the foreigners. ak>> There are many Americans who think that if people do not feel ak>> themselves safe without feeling guns with their buttocks there is ak>> something very wrong in such a country. TR> And they would be those who not only don't mind living life on TR> their knees, at the mercy of aggressors, but want everyone else to TR> live life on their knees as well. TR> Trouble is... pretty much all those who whine about ordinary TR> Americans owning their own guns, standing at a microphone TR> thundering against the Second Amendment, are usually surrounded by TR> plain clothes body guards who are armed to the teeth! The only hope is that they follow their promises given during the election campaign. They could demand gun restriction on behalf their electorate only. So democracy must show itself. TR>>> Convicted felons, some misdemeanor convictions, and those who TR>>> have been in mental institutions are usually caught in a TR>>> background check for a firearm purchase. ak>> If a person hasn't been in a mental hospital during his life it ak>> doesn't mean he is healthy mentally. That is the way how nutcases ak>> acquire submachine guns. TR> So what? The easier is a buying procedure the more chances for crazy persons to get armed. So, a heavy restriction is not a bad idea. After all a restriction is not a prohibition. ak>> Do you think it would be good if people also carry sabers and ak>> daggers? It is even less powerful weapon for self-defence than ak>> guns. TR> Islamic fanatics `go off' with swords and knives all the time, TR> slashing and stabbing people. I'd prefer having a. 44 special in my TR> pocket than a pocket knife in that scenario. They can think in this way also. TR> Not a single teacher was armed and able to engage a gunman who was TR> `harming the children'. TR> At Sandy Hook even the security guard was `un'armed! And the TR> children died! I think that the probability that a teacher will kill his students in temper is higher than the probability he will defend them from a terrorist. :) A teacher should be unarmed, as a researcher who is going to study savages in the jungle. More chances for negotiations. :) Bye, Tim! Alexander Koryagin fido7.debate 2016 --- FIDOGATE 5.1.7ds * Origin: Pushkin's BBS (2:5020/2140.2) .