Subj : RE: Changes to lists? To : All From : HECTOR SANTOS Date : Thu Jan 31 2019 19:12:12 Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 13:15:14 -0400 From: HECTOR SANTOS To: DAVE GOURD Subject: RE: Changes to lists? Newsgroups: win.server.program Message-ID: <1400174114.32.1399124718@winserver.com> References: <1399124718.32.1399040469@winserver.com> X-WcMsg-Attr: Rcvd X-Mailer: Wildcat! Interactive Net Server v7.0.454.5 Lines: 265 Dave, until you figure out the proper IP setup for SPF, for now, I recommend to relax your SPF policy using a ~ALL (SoftFail) or ?ALL (Unknown) policy. By using the -ALL HardFail policy, it causes the email to be rejected if the IP rules are not correct. For now, change it. We can look over the setup again to see what SPF rule will cover a hardfail reliably. On 5/3/2014 9:45 AM, DAVE GOURD wrote to HECTOR SANTOS: > Thanks for the reply Hector. > > This is going to drive me nuts - I used to be able to communicate via the > lists before (up until a few weeks ago). Then hotmail started flagging mail > from (foxriver.net rpd) as 'suspcious' or whatever. Then last week I > started getting bounced by the WINS lists. I did make changes to the spf > because that's what hotmail told me was wrong- worked ok for years now, > don't know exactly why it changed. So I evidently goofed something up. > > Need a refresher for networking and spf now, ain't had to deal with it for > so long I forgot how. > > Messages sent to the lists are sent while logged into my system > foxriver.net [x.x.x.73] (via web login, not external mail apps), same as I > do with all mail I send from here. > > When I am logged into my system, isn't the mail supposed to be sent from > that domain/IP? I know it is different IP when I use Outlook or t-bird > stand-alone as it should. > > 1 domain (foxriver.net) is at networksol, others are at godaddy. DNS for > FRN is w/netsol, where I change the spf netsol. Cannot remember which site, > but one spf check mentioned not valid txt file because of non- authoritative > reasons or something to that effect. I never had a problem before. > > > Setup here: > ----------- > comcast -> comcast router, WAN x.x.x.78/29, LAN 10.1.x.x > (whois foxriver.net = x.x.x.72-x.x.x.79 (x.73-x.77 available to me) > comcast router -> x.73 wc server- FRN and 6 sub-domains to same IP) > comcast router -> x.76 (LAN1 router, 192.168.2x.x), wifi & misc boxes > comcast router -> x.77 (LAN2 router, 192.168.0.x), wc server and 4 boxes > > I use WAN IP's for LAN routers cause that's how I did it for 10+yrs on > AT&T, was plug and play setup just changed public IP's; future plans are to > use 2 separate Linux boxes for 2 of the sub-domains and drop 1 of the > private routers. > > For present, I want to run all 7 domains, mail, lists, etc, on same IP with > foxriver.net (FRN) as default. > > Is Comcast doing something in their dns to cause this, did netsol change > something at dns servers, or (likely) am I just getting old and slow? > > Any bread crumbs? > > -- > Dave > Chicago > > On 5/2/2014 10:21 AM, HECTOR SANTOS wrote to DAVE GOURD: > > -> Hi Dave, It appears that the SPF rejection is based on your SPF record > for > -> foxriver.net is based on the IP shown: > -> > -> v=spf1 a mx ptr ip4:50.196.212.73 mx:foxriver.net -all > -> > -> But your mail SMTP client connected using ip 50.196.212.77. > -> > -> Making the SPF record correction will resolve this. Don't forget to make > -> sure the foxriver.net IP (A record) matches too. You also may wish to > -> remove the spf "ptr" rule unless you add a matching PTR record too. > -> > -> -- > -> HLS > -> > -> On 4/30/2014 9:21 AM, DAVE GOURD wrote to all: > -> > -> > Have tried to send 3 msgs to the lists here - they are not being > -> delivered. > -> > > -> > Did something change in the past week or 2 that I missed??? > -> > > -> > My system put the list addys in badrcpt.txt file: > -> > > -> > winserver@winserver.com ts=20140430074507 > -> > list-antispam@winserver.com ts=20140430080742 > -> > > -> > -- > -> > Dave > -> > Chicago > -> > > -> > > -> > from sendtrace logs: > -> > > -> > ************************************************************************** > -> > Wildcat! ESMTP Server v6.4.454.2 > -> > SMTP log started at Tue, 29 Apr 2014 09:19:39 > -> > Connection Time: 20140429 09:19:39 cid: 00000000 tid: 05C8 > -> > SSL Enabled: NO > -> > Message Queue: e:\wc5\gateway\frn\smtp\45233W > -> > Destination: winserver@winserver.com > -> > Mail Host IP: 208.247.131.9:25 (mail.winserver.com) > -> > Attempt #1 LastAttempt: n/a > -> > 09:19:39 ** Opening Connection to host: mail.winserver.com ip: > -> > 208.247.131.9:25 > -> > 09:19:39 S: 220-winserver.com Wildcat! ESMTP Server v7.0.454.4 ready > -> > 09:19:39 S: 220-************** WARNING: FOR AUTHORIZED USE ONLY! > -> > ********************** > -> > 09:19:39 S: 220-* THIS SYSTEM DO NOT AUTHORIZE THE USE OF ITS > PROPRIETARY > -> > COMPUTERS * > -> > 09:19:39 S: 220-* AND COMPUTER NETWORKS TO ACCEPT, TRANSMIT, OR > -> DISTRIBUTE > -> > UNSOLICITED * > -> > 09:19:39 S: 220-* BULK E-MAIL SENT FROM THE INTERNET. THIS SYSTEM WILL > -> > RESTRICT ACCESS * > -> > 09:19:39 S: 220-* TO CAN-SPAM (US S. 877) COMPLIANT CLIENTS ONLY. > -> > * > -> > 09:19:39 S: 220 > -> > > ************************************************************************ > -> > 09:19:39 C: EHLO foxriver.net > -> > 09:19:40 S: 250-winserver.com, Hello 50-196-212-77- > -> > static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net, why do you call yourself foxriver.net? > -> > 09:19:40 S: 250-SIZE 10240000 > -> > 09:19:40 S: 250-8BITMIME > -> > 09:19:40 S: 250-SUBMITTER > -> > 09:19:40 S: 250-ETRN > -> > 09:19:40 S: 250-AUTH CRAM-MD5 DIGEST-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN PLAIN-MD5 SHA-1 > -> > 09:19:40 S: 250-AUTH=LOGIN > -> > 09:19:40 S: 250-HELP > -> > 09:19:40 S: 250 STARTTLS > -> > 09:19:40 C: MAIL FROM: > -> > 09:19:40 S: 250 ... Sender validation > pending. > -> > Continue. > -> > 09:19:40 C: RCPT TO: > -> > 09:19:40 S: 550 Return Path not verifiable. > -> > 09:19:40 C: QUIT > -> > 09:19:40 S: 221 closing connection > -> > 09:19:40 ** Completed. Elapsed Time: 1515 msecs > -> > > -> > > -> > ************************************************************************** > -> > Wildcat! ESMTP Server v6.4.454.2 > -> > SMTP log started at Wed, 30 Apr 2014 07:45:05 > -> > Connection Time: 20140430 07:45:05 cid: 00000000 tid: 0928 > -> > SSL Enabled: NO > -> > Message Queue: e:\wc5\gateway\frn\smtp\38205W > -> > Destination: winserver@winserver.com > -> > Mail Host IP: 208.247.131.9:25 (mail.winserver.com) > -> > Attempt #1 LastAttempt: n/a > -> > 07:45:06 ** Opening Connection to host: mail.winserver.com ip: > -> > 208.247.131.9:25 > -> > 07:45:06 S: 220-winserver.com Wildcat! ESMTP Server v7.0.454.4 ready > -> > 07:45:06 S: 220-************** WARNING: FOR AUTHORIZED USE ONLY! > -> > ********************** > -> > 07:45:06 S: 220-* THIS SYSTEM DO NOT AUTHORIZE THE USE OF ITS > PROPRIETARY > -> > COMPUTERS * > -> > 07:45:06 S: 220-* AND COMPUTER NETWORKS TO ACCEPT, TRANSMIT, OR > -> DISTRIBUTE > -> > UNSOLICITED * > -> > 07:45:06 S: 220-* BULK E-MAIL SENT FROM THE INTERNET. THIS SYSTEM WILL > -> > RESTRICT ACCESS * > -> > 07:45:06 S: 220-* TO CAN-SPAM (US S. 877) COMPLIANT CLIENTS ONLY. > -> > * > -> > 07:45:06 S: 220 > -> > > ************************************************************************ > -> > 07:45:06 C: EHLO foxriver.net > -> > 07:45:06 S: 250-winserver.com, Hello 50-196-212-77- > -> > static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net, why do you call yourself foxriver.net? > -> > 07:45:06 S: 250-SIZE 10240000 > -> > 07:45:06 S: 250-8BITMIME > -> > 07:45:06 S: 250-SUBMITTER > -> > 07:45:06 S: 250-ETRN > -> > 07:45:06 S: 250-AUTH CRAM-MD5 DIGEST-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN PLAIN-MD5 SHA-1 > -> > 07:45:06 S: 250-AUTH=LOGIN > -> > 07:45:06 S: 250-HELP > -> > 07:45:06 S: 250 STARTTLS > -> > 07:45:06 C: MAIL FROM: > -> > 07:45:06 S: 250 ... Sender validation > pending. > -> > Continue. > -> > 07:45:06 C: RCPT TO: > -> > 07:45:07 S: 550 Return Path not verifiable. > -> > 07:45:07 C: QUIT > -> > 07:45:07 S: 221 closing connection > -> > 07:45:07 ** Completed. Elapsed Time: 1438 msecs > -> > > -> > > -> > ************************************************************************** > -> > Wildcat! ESMTP Server v6.4.454.2 > -> > SMTP log started at Wed, 30 Apr 2014 08:07:40 > -> > Connection Time: 20140430 08:07:40 cid: 00000000 tid: 0498 > -> > SSL Enabled: NO > -> > Message Queue: e:\wc5\gateway\frn\smtp\38206W > -> > Destination: list-antispam@winserver.com > -> > Mail Host IP: 208.247.131.9:25 (mail.winserver.com) > -> > Attempt #1 LastAttempt: n/a > -> > 08:07:41 ** Opening Connection to host: mail.winserver.com ip: > -> > 208.247.131.9:25 > -> > 08:07:41 S: 220-winserver.com Wildcat! ESMTP Server v7.0.454.4 ready > -> > 08:07:41 S: 220-************** WARNING: FOR AUTHORIZED USE ONLY! > -> > ********************** > -> > 08:07:41 S: 220-* THIS SYSTEM DO NOT AUTHORIZE THE USE OF ITS > PROPRIETARY > -> > COMPUTERS * > -> > 08:07:41 S: 220-* AND COMPUTER NETWORKS TO ACCEPT, TRANSMIT, OR > -> DISTRIBUTE > -> > UNSOLICITED * > -> > 08:07:41 S: 220-* BULK E-MAIL SENT FROM THE INTERNET. THIS SYSTEM WILL > -> > RESTRICT ACCESS * > -> > 08:07:41 S: 220-* TO CAN-SPAM (US S. 877) COMPLIANT CLIENTS ONLY. > -> > * > -> > 08:07:41 S: 220 > -> > > ************************************************************************ > -> > 08:07:41 C: EHLO foxriver.net > -> > 08:07:41 S: 250-winserver.com, Hello 50-196-212-77- > -> > static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net, why do you call yourself foxriver.net? > -> > 08:07:41 S: 250-SIZE 10240000 > -> > 08:07:41 S: 250-8BITMIME > -> > 08:07:41 S: 250-SUBMITTER > -> > 08:07:41 S: 250-ETRN > -> > 08:07:41 S: 250-AUTH CRAM-MD5 DIGEST-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN PLAIN-MD5 SHA-1 > -> > 08:07:41 S: 250-AUTH=LOGIN > -> > 08:07:41 S: 250-HELP > -> > 08:07:41 S: 250 STARTTLS > -> > 08:07:41 C: MAIL FROM: > -> > 08:07:41 S: 250 ... Sender validation > -> pending. > -> > Continue. > -> > 08:07:41 C: RCPT TO: > -> > 08:07:42 S: 550 Return Path not verifiable. > -> > 08:07:42 C: QUIT > -> > 08:07:42 S: 221 closing connection > -> > 08:07:42 ** Completed. Elapsed Time: 1422 msecs > -> > > --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.1 * Origin: Prison Board BBS Mesquite Tx //telnet.RDFIG.NET www. (1:124/5013) .