Subj : RE: Changes to lists? To : All From : DAVE GOURD Date : Thu Jan 31 2019 19:12:12 Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 10:19:59 -0400 From: DAVE GOURD To: HECTOR SANTOS Subject: RE: Changes to lists? Newsgroups: win.server.program Message-ID: <1400595599.32.1400174114@winserver.com> References: <1400174114.32.1399124718@winserver.com> X-WcMsg-Attr: Rcvd X-Mailer: Wildcat! Interactive Net Server v7.0.454.5 Lines: 316 That's what I was going to do for interim solution. Don't know what's up with the situation - it's all been AK for a few years, then recent;y things changed for some reason or other. I've been going thru things a little bit at a time for couple weeks now; lawn care season kicked in full time now so am busy as a one-armed wallpaper hanger, and thanx to Murphy, when I had the time a month and more back, I didn't have this problem. Anyway, I'll go and relax the rule for now, going to have to go brush back up on things. I think it's something @ Comcast - lots of things changed a year ago when I moved over from AT&T, much of it not right for my money - they won't left me do things like I could with AT&T. .... off to dns changes. Thank You. -- Dave Chicago On 5/15/2014 1:15 PM, HECTOR SANTOS wrote to DAVE GOURD: -> Dave, until you figure out the proper IP setup for SPF, for now, I -> recommend to relax your SPF policy using a ~ALL (SoftFail) or ?ALL -> (Unknown) policy. By using the -ALL HardFail policy, it causes the email -> to be rejected if the IP rules are not correct. For now, change it. We -> can look over the setup again to see what SPF rule will cover a hardfail -> reliably. -> -> On 5/3/2014 9:45 AM, DAVE GOURD wrote to HECTOR SANTOS: -> -> > Thanks for the reply Hector. -> > -> > This is going to drive me nuts - I used to be able to communicate via the -> > lists before (up until a few weeks ago). Then hotmail started flagging -> mail -> > from (foxriver.net rpd) as 'suspcious' or whatever. Then last week I -> > started getting bounced by the WINS lists. I did make changes to the spf -> > because that's what hotmail told me was wrong- worked ok for years now, -> > don't know exactly why it changed. So I evidently goofed something up. -> > -> > Need a refresher for networking and spf now, ain't had to deal with it -> for -> > so long I forgot how. -> > -> > Messages sent to the lists are sent while logged into my system -> > foxriver.net [x.x.x.73] (via web login, not external mail apps), same as -> I -> > do with all mail I send from here. -> > -> > When I am logged into my system, isn't the mail supposed to be sent from -> > that domain/IP? I know it is different IP when I use Outlook or t-bird -> > stand-alone as it should. -> > -> > 1 domain (foxriver.net) is at networksol, others are at godaddy. DNS for -> > FRN is w/netsol, where I change the spf netsol. Cannot remember which -> site, -> > but one spf check mentioned not valid txt file because of non- -> authoritative -> > reasons or something to that effect. I never had a problem before. -> > -> > -> > Setup here: -> > ----------- -> > comcast -> comcast router, WAN x.x.x.78/29, LAN 10.1.x.x -> > (whois foxriver.net = x.x.x.72-x.x.x.79 (x.73-x.77 available to me) -> > comcast router -> x.73 wc server- FRN and 6 sub-domains to same IP) -> > comcast router -> x.76 (LAN1 router, 192.168.2x.x), wifi & misc boxes -> > comcast router -> x.77 (LAN2 router, 192.168.0.x), wc server and 4 boxes -> > -> > I use WAN IP's for LAN routers cause that's how I did it for 10+yrs on -> > AT&T, was plug and play setup just changed public IP's; future plans are -> to -> > use 2 separate Linux boxes for 2 of the sub-domains and drop 1 of the -> > private routers. -> > -> > For present, I want to run all 7 domains, mail, lists, etc, on same IP -> with -> > foxriver.net (FRN) as default. -> > -> > Is Comcast doing something in their dns to cause this, did netsol change -> > something at dns servers, or (likely) am I just getting old and slow? -> > -> > Any bread crumbs? -> > -> > -- -> > Dave -> > Chicago -> > -> > On 5/2/2014 10:21 AM, HECTOR SANTOS wrote to DAVE GOURD: -> > -> > -> Hi Dave, It appears that the SPF rejection is based on your SPF -> record -> > for -> > -> foxriver.net is based on the IP shown: -> > -> -> > -> v=spf1 a mx ptr ip4:50.196.212.73 mx:foxriver.net -all -> > -> -> > -> But your mail SMTP client connected using ip 50.196.212.77. -> > -> -> > -> Making the SPF record correction will resolve this. Don't forget to -> make -> > -> sure the foxriver.net IP (A record) matches too. You also may wish to -> > -> remove the spf "ptr" rule unless you add a matching PTR record too. -> > -> -> > -> -- -> > -> HLS -> > -> -> > -> On 4/30/2014 9:21 AM, DAVE GOURD wrote to all: -> > -> -> > -> > Have tried to send 3 msgs to the lists here - they are not being -> > -> delivered. -> > -> > -> > -> > Did something change in the past week or 2 that I missed??? -> > -> > -> > -> > My system put the list addys in badrcpt.txt file: -> > -> > -> > -> > winserver@winserver.com ts=20140430074507 -> > -> > list-antispam@winserver.com ts=20140430080742 -> > -> > -> > -> > -- -> > -> > Dave -> > -> > Chicago -> > -> > -> > -> > -> > -> > from sendtrace logs: -> > -> > -> > -> -> > -> ************************************************************************** -> > -> > Wildcat! ESMTP Server v6.4.454.2 -> > -> > SMTP log started at Tue, 29 Apr 2014 09:19:39 -> > -> > Connection Time: 20140429 09:19:39 cid: 00000000 tid: 05C8 -> > -> > SSL Enabled: NO -> > -> > Message Queue: e:\wc5\gateway\frn\smtp\45233W -> > -> > Destination: winserver@winserver.com -> > -> > Mail Host IP: 208.247.131.9:25 (mail.winserver.com) -> > -> > Attempt #1 LastAttempt: n/a -> > -> > 09:19:39 ** Opening Connection to host: mail.winserver.com ip: -> > -> > 208.247.131.9:25 -> > -> > 09:19:39 S: 220-winserver.com Wildcat! ESMTP Server v7.0.454.4 ready -> > -> > 09:19:39 S: 220-************** WARNING: FOR AUTHORIZED USE ONLY! -> > -> > ********************** -> > -> > 09:19:39 S: 220-* THIS SYSTEM DO NOT AUTHORIZE THE USE OF ITS -> > PROPRIETARY -> > -> > COMPUTERS * -> > -> > 09:19:39 S: 220-* AND COMPUTER NETWORKS TO ACCEPT, TRANSMIT, OR -> > -> DISTRIBUTE -> > -> > UNSOLICITED * -> > -> > 09:19:39 S: 220-* BULK E-MAIL SENT FROM THE INTERNET. THIS SYSTEM -> WILL -> > -> > RESTRICT ACCESS * -> > -> > 09:19:39 S: 220-* TO CAN-SPAM (US S. 877) COMPLIANT CLIENTS ONLY. -> > -> > * -> > -> > 09:19:39 S: 220 -> > -> > -> > ************************************************************************ -> > -> > 09:19:39 C: EHLO foxriver.net -> > -> > 09:19:40 S: 250-winserver.com, Hello 50-196-212-77- -> > -> > static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net, why do you call yourself -> foxriver.net? -> > -> > 09:19:40 S: 250-SIZE 10240000 -> > -> > 09:19:40 S: 250-8BITMIME -> > -> > 09:19:40 S: 250-SUBMITTER -> > -> > 09:19:40 S: 250-ETRN -> > -> > 09:19:40 S: 250-AUTH CRAM-MD5 DIGEST-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN PLAIN-MD5 SHA-1 -> > -> > 09:19:40 S: 250-AUTH=LOGIN -> > -> > 09:19:40 S: 250-HELP -> > -> > 09:19:40 S: 250 STARTTLS -> > -> > 09:19:40 C: MAIL FROM: -> > -> > 09:19:40 S: 250 ... Sender validation -> > pending. -> > -> > Continue. -> > -> > 09:19:40 C: RCPT TO: -> > -> > 09:19:40 S: 550 Return Path not verifiable. -> > -> > 09:19:40 C: QUIT -> > -> > 09:19:40 S: 221 closing connection -> > -> > 09:19:40 ** Completed. Elapsed Time: 1515 msecs -> > -> > -> > -> > -> > -> -> > -> ************************************************************************** -> > -> > Wildcat! ESMTP Server v6.4.454.2 -> > -> > SMTP log started at Wed, 30 Apr 2014 07:45:05 -> > -> > Connection Time: 20140430 07:45:05 cid: 00000000 tid: 0928 -> > -> > SSL Enabled: NO -> > -> > Message Queue: e:\wc5\gateway\frn\smtp\38205W -> > -> > Destination: winserver@winserver.com -> > -> > Mail Host IP: 208.247.131.9:25 (mail.winserver.com) -> > -> > Attempt #1 LastAttempt: n/a -> > -> > 07:45:06 ** Opening Connection to host: mail.winserver.com ip: -> > -> > 208.247.131.9:25 -> > -> > 07:45:06 S: 220-winserver.com Wildcat! ESMTP Server v7.0.454.4 ready -> > -> > 07:45:06 S: 220-************** WARNING: FOR AUTHORIZED USE ONLY! -> > -> > ********************** -> > -> > 07:45:06 S: 220-* THIS SYSTEM DO NOT AUTHORIZE THE USE OF ITS -> > PROPRIETARY -> > -> > COMPUTERS * -> > -> > 07:45:06 S: 220-* AND COMPUTER NETWORKS TO ACCEPT, TRANSMIT, OR -> > -> DISTRIBUTE -> > -> > UNSOLICITED * -> > -> > 07:45:06 S: 220-* BULK E-MAIL SENT FROM THE INTERNET. THIS SYSTEM -> WILL -> > -> > RESTRICT ACCESS * -> > -> > 07:45:06 S: 220-* TO CAN-SPAM (US S. 877) COMPLIANT CLIENTS ONLY. -> > -> > * -> > -> > 07:45:06 S: 220 -> > -> > -> > ************************************************************************ -> > -> > 07:45:06 C: EHLO foxriver.net -> > -> > 07:45:06 S: 250-winserver.com, Hello 50-196-212-77- -> > -> > static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net, why do you call yourself -> foxriver.net? -> > -> > 07:45:06 S: 250-SIZE 10240000 -> > -> > 07:45:06 S: 250-8BITMIME -> > -> > 07:45:06 S: 250-SUBMITTER -> > -> > 07:45:06 S: 250-ETRN -> > -> > 07:45:06 S: 250-AUTH CRAM-MD5 DIGEST-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN PLAIN-MD5 SHA-1 -> > -> > 07:45:06 S: 250-AUTH=LOGIN -> > -> > 07:45:06 S: 250-HELP -> > -> > 07:45:06 S: 250 STARTTLS -> > -> > 07:45:06 C: MAIL FROM: -> > -> > 07:45:06 S: 250 ... Sender validation -> > pending. -> > -> > Continue. -> > -> > 07:45:06 C: RCPT TO: -> > -> > 07:45:07 S: 550 Return Path not verifiable. -> > -> > 07:45:07 C: QUIT -> > -> > 07:45:07 S: 221 closing connection -> > -> > 07:45:07 ** Completed. Elapsed Time: 1438 msecs -> > -> > -> > -> > -> > -> -> > -> ************************************************************************** -> > -> > Wildcat! ESMTP Server v6.4.454.2 -> > -> > SMTP log started at Wed, 30 Apr 2014 08:07:40 -> > -> > Connection Time: 20140430 08:07:40 cid: 00000000 tid: 0498 -> > -> > SSL Enabled: NO -> > -> > Message Queue: e:\wc5\gateway\frn\smtp\38206W -> > -> > Destination: list-antispam@winserver.com -> > -> > Mail Host IP: 208.247.131.9:25 (mail.winserver.com) -> > -> > Attempt #1 LastAttempt: n/a -> > -> > 08:07:41 ** Opening Connection to host: mail.winserver.com ip: -> > -> > 208.247.131.9:25 -> > -> > 08:07:41 S: 220-winserver.com Wildcat! ESMTP Server v7.0.454.4 ready -> > -> > 08:07:41 S: 220-************** WARNING: FOR AUTHORIZED USE ONLY! -> > -> > ********************** -> > -> > 08:07:41 S: 220-* THIS SYSTEM DO NOT AUTHORIZE THE USE OF ITS -> > PROPRIETARY -> > -> > COMPUTERS * -> > -> > 08:07:41 S: 220-* AND COMPUTER NETWORKS TO ACCEPT, TRANSMIT, OR -> > -> DISTRIBUTE -> > -> > UNSOLICITED * -> > -> > 08:07:41 S: 220-* BULK E-MAIL SENT FROM THE INTERNET. THIS SYSTEM -> WILL -> > -> > RESTRICT ACCESS * -> > -> > 08:07:41 S: 220-* TO CAN-SPAM (US S. 877) COMPLIANT CLIENTS ONLY. -> > -> > * -> > -> > 08:07:41 S: 220 -> > -> > -> > ************************************************************************ -> > -> > 08:07:41 C: EHLO foxriver.net -> > -> > 08:07:41 S: 250-winserver.com, Hello 50-196-212-77- -> > -> > static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net, why do you call yourself -> foxriver.net? -> > -> > 08:07:41 S: 250-SIZE 10240000 -> > -> > 08:07:41 S: 250-8BITMIME -> > -> > 08:07:41 S: 250-SUBMITTER -> > -> > 08:07:41 S: 250-ETRN -> > -> > 08:07:41 S: 250-AUTH CRAM-MD5 DIGEST-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN PLAIN-MD5 SHA-1 -> > -> > 08:07:41 S: 250-AUTH=LOGIN -> > -> > 08:07:41 S: 250-HELP -> > -> > 08:07:41 S: 250 STARTTLS -> > -> > 08:07:41 C: MAIL FROM: -> > -> > 08:07:41 S: 250 ... Sender validation -> > -> pending. -> > -> > Continue. -> > -> > 08:07:41 C: RCPT TO: -> > -> > 08:07:42 S: 550 Return Path not verifiable. -> > -> > 08:07:42 C: QUIT -> > -> > 08:07:42 S: 221 closing connection -> > -> > 08:07:42 ** Completed. Elapsed Time: 1422 msecs -> > -> > -> > -> --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.1 * Origin: Prison Board BBS Mesquite Tx //telnet.RDFIG.NET www. (1:124/5013) .