Subj : Russia and Ukraine
To   : Alan Ianson
From : alexander koryagin
Date : Thu May 26 2022 16:34:50

Hi, Alan Ianson!
I read your message from 25.05.2022 18:00


  ak>> But I repeat that Ukrainian nationalists hated Russia so much that
  ak>> any concessions from them had been impossible for 8 years. And now
  ak>> they are impossible while an clown-actor stays as a president, who
  ak>> plays it as in a movie.

  AI> What concessions do you hope for from Ukraine? You won't be getting
  AI> any.

So it is useless to talk about them. ;-) And, probably, already too late.

  ak>> What do you think Russian troops would have done to Ukrainian
  ak>> people if they allowed Russian troops enter freely? Fighting with
  ak>> Russia was a crazy idea for Zelensky and irreconcilable
  ak>> nationalists and a big part of the calamity lay on them. Who is
  ak>> guilty more -- people will say it later.

  AI> They would have killed Zelensky (they tried serveral times) and
  AI> installed a puppet government. It would have gone beyond that to
  AI> what point I am not sure.

You (and many people in the West) call a puppet government any 
government friendly to Russia. ;-) It is wrong of course. And in Russia 
many also stick such labels to the US satellites.

  AI> Why should the Ukrainian people allow Russian troops enter freely?
  AI> Would Russia allow Ukrainian troops to enter freely?

Ukrainian President could chose two way to treat Russia - diplomacy or a 
war. As an idiot he chose a war and a great damage to his country. 
Ukraine has already lost much more than it would lose in the peaceful 
variant of resistance. Well, how to explain it to you -- suppose you 
meet a bad strong company who demands money from you. And you should 
weigh carefully your broken bones and medical bills against some money 
you give away. ;=))

  AI>>> You blame Zelensky, a man who was just elected in 2019 but as you
  AI>>> told me yourself Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014 and has been
  AI>>> supporting the suparatists in the east since then bankrolling
  AI>>> salaries to local officials and the separatist military forces.

  ak>> No wonder -- Ukraine had blockaded Donbass completely and Russia
  ak>> was forced to pay money to all the people living on the blockaded
  ak>> territory, not allowing them to die of hunger etc.

  AI> Do you actually believe these things you say? ;)

What is wrong? The fact that Ukraine has blockaded  Donbass for 8 years?

Bye, Alan!
Alexander Koryagin
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