Subj : Russia and Ukraine
To   : Alan Ianson
From : alexander koryagin
Date : Fri May 27 2022 09:05:22

Hi, Alan Ianson!
I read your message from 26.05.2022 19:37

  ak>> You (and many people in the West) call a puppet government any
  ak>> government friendly to Russia. ;-) It is wrong of course. And in
  ak>> Russia many also stick such labels to the US satellites.

  AI> A puppet government is not hard to describe. It is a government put
  AI> in place of an existing government by force. That is what Russia
  AI> has tried to do in Ukraine. They have done that on a smaller scale
  AI> in some regions of Ukraine.

Well, to say the truth, it is a common worldwide practice. The US has 
done it all the the time when it wants to have a friendly government in 
  some country. It was in Haiti, Panama, Honduras, Nicaragua etc, Iraq, 
Afghanistan, Yugoslavia, Libya. Military juntas installed by the US is a 
common thing in the South America, remember Chile for instance. So it is 
not the US who has a moral right to teach others in this respect.

  AI>>> Why should the Ukrainian people allow Russian troops enter
  AI>>> freely? Would Russia allow Ukrainian troops to enter freely?
  ak>> Ukrainian President could chose two way to treat Russia -
  ak>> diplomacy or a war. As an idiot he chose a war and a great damage
  ak>> to his country.
  AI> That was not a choice he made. That was a choice Russia made.
  ak>> Ukraine has already lost much more than it would lose in the
  ak>> peaceful variant of resistance.

  AI> What is this peaceful variant of resistance you speak of?

Well it easy -- western economic sanctions are a 20 times more effective 
weapon than the resistance of the Ukrainian good-for-nothing troops dug 
down in civil areas and towns -- the main cause of numeral deaths of 
civilians in Ukraine. Also these bastards prohibit civilians to leave 
the towns under an attack. It is a well known fact. Russian people in 
such towns are used as a living shield of the Ukrainian army.

  ak>> Well, how to explain it to you -- suppose you meet a bad strong
  ak>> company who demands money from you. And you should weigh carefully
  ak>> your broken bones and medical bills against some money you give
  ak>> away. ;=))

  AI> I see. Ukraine should have given Russia it's money so Russia
  AI> wouldn't break their bones?

Not money, but concessions -- it just should to stop its nationalistic 
policy towards the  Russian-speaking population in Ukraine, to give an 
autonomy to Russian-speaking regions. It was realistic.

  AI>>> Do you actually believe these things you say? ;)
  ak>> What is wrong? The fact that Ukraine has blockaded Donbass for 8
  ak>> years?
  AI> The Donbass is Ukrainian territory. How do you imagine that Ukraine
  AI> blockaded it?

By tanks and military of course.

  AI> I can believe that Russian has blockaded Ukrainian exports of wheat
  AI> and other goods. Going so far as to steal Ukrainian wheat.
  AI> https://youtu.be/ZC0tSAJ5WSY
  AI> This is what you are defending and supporting.

Well, the main task for the West now is to carry out the Ukrainian grain 
out of the country. The declared aim is to feed the world population. 
Russia is also participate in the process -- it doesn't confiscate the 
grain for itself. There are many grain in Ukraine on the Russian held 
territory and it is logically to say that only Russian ships can deliver 
it out.

Bye, Alan!
Alexander Koryagin
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