Subj : Russia and Ukraine To : Alan Ianson From : alexander koryagin Date : Mon May 30 2022 10:55:34 Hi, Alan Ianson! I read your message from 28.05.2022 09:53 AI>>> What is this peaceful variant of resistance you speak of? ak>> Well it easy -- western economic sanctions are a 20 times more ak>> effective weapon than the resistance of the Ukrainian good-for- ak>> nothing troops dug down in civil areas and towns AI> Sanctions are not a weapon. They are a reaction to the Russian AI> invasion of Ukraine. If Russia had not done that there would be no AI> sanctions. The same is true of the sanctions imposed after Russia AI> originally invaded Ukraine some years back although those sanctions AI> were on a much smaller scale. Even a word in mass-media is a weapon. Russia has got under sanctions because it lost an information war. And many have believed that Russia is guilty in everything, however there are many of those who must share the blame, whose policy has been not less reckless than Putin's. ak>> -- the main cause of numeral deaths of civilians in Ukraine. Also ak>> these bastards prohibit civilians to leave the towns under an ak>> attack. It is a well known fact. Russian people in such towns are ak>> used as a living shield of the Ukrainian army. AI> You've been watching to much Russian state TV, you should stop AI> that. It is not doing you any good. Just tell me - who resists civilians to leave a Ukrainian town under siege? Russian troops? ak>> Not money, but concessions -- it just should to stop its ak>> nationalistic policy towards the Russian-speaking population in ak>> Ukraine, to give an autonomy to Russian-speaking regions. It was ak>> realistic. AI> So we are back at concessions again? What concessions do you AI> imagine Ukraine should offer to you, so that you don't break their AI> bones? If a person is an idiot, deaf and hate you -- you can speak to him even for 8 years without result. So it was with Ukrainian politicians. AI>>> The Donbass is Ukrainian territory. How do you imagine that AI>>> Ukraine blockaded it? ak>> By tanks and military of course. AI> Yes, of course. How and why do you imagine that Ukraine blockaded AI> their own territory? It blockaded the living people who were against the Kiev 2014 coup. And such a reaction was predictable. Yanukovich had been an elected President, it meant that more than a half of Ukraine (without Crimea) supported him. ak>> Well, the main task for the West now is to carry out the Ukrainian ak>> grain out of the country. AI> You are not making any sense. It is not a task of the west to carry AI> anything out of Ukraine. It never was. ak>> The declared aim is to feed the world population. AI> Nothing has been declared. The Russian blockade of Ukraine's AI> exports creates a world food shortage, among other things. It is a poor propaganda that Russian navy doesn't allow Ukrainian or other ships to carry grain from Ukraine. There is no sense in that, more of that -- all Ukrainian ports are mined by Ukraine itself. ak>> Russia is also participate in the process -- AI> Yes, Russia participated in the theft of this grain from Ukraine. AI> Russia is the largest producer of grain in the world. If it wanted AI> to help any country it could ship it's grain to them itself. Yes, it can provide the world with its own grain. I think the scale of so called theft should be checked -- after Russia had built the Crimean bridge and the highway from Kerch to Sevastopol it can be logical to carry the grain from Russia's Kuban region to Sevastopol port by land. So the grain shown in that CNN report could be Russian. Bye, Alan! Alexander Koryagin fido.debate,local.cc.ak 2022 --- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 * Origin: Usenet Network (2:5075/128.130) .