Subj : Japanese Common Sense To : LEE LOFASO From : BOB KLAHN Date : Thu Jun 13 2013 02:33:56 ... LL>>> or ethnicity. Why did the Japanese choose to help the Jews when so LL>>> many others (including Americans) chose otherwise? Maybe, just maybe, LL>>> it had something to do with religion? Or at the very least a sense LL>>> of human decency. WD>>I think you need to start reading "The Rape of Nanking" by Iris WD>>Chang and learn about the attrocities committed by the Japanese when WD>>entering the Chinese city of Nanking and slaughtering 300,000 WD>>civilians in that town alone. In my critique of Lee's sentence above, I missed that point completely. LL> Just because a handful of Japanese military men got carried LL> away does not mean that an entire people was at fault. And LL> lets not forget what we did to innocent Japanese citizens, LL> nuking TWO of their cities - just because we could. Makes LL> me real proud to be an American ... NOT! WD>>Another interesting fact is that several of Japan's WW2 war WD>>criminals who were convicted at the eastern version of the Nurnberg WD>>war trials and executed, are still being revered as heroes in a WD>>shrine. Plus the prediction of an invasion death toll estimated at a million. LL> Of course those Japanese "war criminals" were convicted in LL> our kangaroo courts and executed. What else would you have LL> expected? That they were guilty? I suspect the victims thought so. LL> Saddam Hussein mocked his Shiite executioners by asking LL> them just before they hanged him, "Is this manly?" What a LL> brave man he was, hitting the nail on the head with that LL> comment. Or was he just nutso? LL> Imagine what Adolf Hitler would have said had the Jews been LL> able to capture him alive. Imagine what Adolf Eichmann LL> said after the Jews kidnapped him and convicted him in an LL> Israeli kangaroo court, executed him by hanging, and LL> finally cremating him then throwing his ashes into the LL> Mediterranean Sea. Eichman said, "I go happily into my grave, knowing I have sent six million Jews there before me." Hitler would have just spent his time complaining about all those American soldiers who would not stop smoking just because he complained. LL> How is any of that "justice"? Having a Shiite hit squad LL> execute your enemy just because you could? That is what Saddam did deserve it. Regardless of the other mistakes we made there. LL> our sorry excuse of a president did. Having a bunch of LL> angry Jews execute your enemey just because you could? LL> That is what the Mossad did, along with their Jewish LL> brethren, totally disregarding international law. Eichman never denied what he did, he was proud of it. LL> There is no real "justice" in this world. Only "revenge". LL> You know it, I know it, and everybody else knows it. So LL> why not admit what should be obvious to all? That bad guys deserve to be punished? LL> It makes us feel good to kill people. Especially people LL> who we claim have done bad things. Emotionally, we cannot LL> help ourselves. It is our nature to kill, whether we do it LL> ourselves or have somebody else do it for us. We just do LL> not like to admit it. Which is disproven over and over, by those who cannot bring themselves to kill, and by those who agonize for years, or a lifetime, when they have to kill and do. LL> We have the death penalty in the USA. Both at the federal LL> level, and also in most (but not all) states. The majority LL> of people here are in favor of the death penalty, as they I doubt you can prove that. And the death penalty fails over and over when juries are given the choice of life without parole. LL> feel (rightly or wrongly) that those who are put to death LL> deserve to die. However, they get very uneasy when I tell LL> them the state is murdering people in their name. Seems LL> that most folks do not like to be called "killers" or LL> "murderers" to their face. Point? LL> Klingons, as do Sicilians, have a saying - "Revenge is a LL> dish best served cold." And that is exactly what those LL> trials were after WWII, for both Europeans and Japanese. There has to be a penalty, or there is no deterrant. Oh, and that was Sicilian. Gene Roddenberry stole a lot. LL> We wanted our revenge. And we got it. And it was justified. BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn .... Trust me, but look to thyself. -Irish proverb --- Via Silver Xpress V4.5/P [Reg] * Origin: Fidonet Since 1991 Join Us: www.DocsPlace.org (1:123/140) .