Subj : Re: Clandestine activity is a holy cow of democracy
To   : BOB KLAHN
From : alexander koryagin
Date : Thu Aug 15 2013 10:43:49

Hi, BOB KLAHN!
I read your message from 06.08.2013 13:17

 LL>>> Jeffersonian violence is acceptable if, and only if, a regime
 LL>>> becomes so oppressive that it has lost its legitimacy to govern.
 LL>>> By that way of thinking, it is not an act of treason but rather
 LL>>> an act of patriotism.

 AK>> Who is a person who decides that the current regime is becoming
 AK>> oppressive and totalitarian? Everybody decides it for himself and
 AK>> then decided to fight with such a regime or do nothing. Snowden
 AK>> did the same.

 BK> "That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men,
 BK> deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed..."

 BK> That is Jefferson's standard for a legitimate government. Any
 BK> government that rules without the consent of the governed can be
 BK> justly opposed. However, the opposition must realize, they do not
 BK> have the right to force their opinions on others. There is no
 BK> perfect government, sometimes we have to live with governments we
 BK> don't want, as long as they attained power and hold power with the
 BK> consent of the governed.

   But propaganda can change things. Suppose, that after brainwashing
the majority of people will agree with the rule to implant GPS chips to
all people? They were persuaded that such a measure would be good for
"public order".

Bye, BOB!
Alexander Koryagin
fido7.debate 2013
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