Subj : WWIII To : LEE LOFASO From : BOB KLAHN Date : Mon Jul 21 2014 20:48:00 ... BK>> Being insulted is not ground for shooting up the place, and BK>> killing people. It is not grounds for seizing power. Now, how BK>> many Russian people live there? And why are Russians living in BK>> Ukraine and claiming the right to decide who rules the country? LL> Who has. the right to decide who gets to stay and who must Those who were there first? OK, democracy over all other systems. LL> leave? Palestinians claim Israelis stole their land. And The UN did. ... LL> other peoples from far away were allowed to settle and LL> literally steal that land from the proper owners. Those displaced by war often do that, through out history. From what I read, the frightening thing about Attilla the Hun is, he was the loser in the wars where he came from. LL> Of course, we did much the same thing in regards to Native LL> Americans, forcing them to live on reservations which we had LL> so conveniently set aside for them. Yep. LL> Hell, we were so damned nice to Injuns that we denied them LL> the right to vote - until Bill Clinton took office. And now LL> look at what they are doing to us. Those same Injuns are LL> taking us to court in order to keep our oil companies from LL> fracking on the land that we gave them to live on! Dang it! How come they get it right but our representatives get it so wrong? ... BK>> But it was the deaths of at least 88 people, many of them BK>> protesters shot dead by uniformed snipers in 48 hours of BK>> bloodshed, that ultimately brought him down. BK>> ---------------------------------------------------------------- LL> According to the CIA, Libyans are the most patriotic people LL> on Earth. For decades, they looked upon their leader as LL> being the most honest and trustworthy man who ever lived. Well, since they might be killed for saying anything else... ... LL> there. Yes, my friend, Libyans loved Billy Beer, which is No wonder they had problems. ... BK>> Russia maybe not, Putin I'm not so sure of. ... BK>> Afghanistan was the base for the 9-11 attack. Iraq was a war for BK>> oil. We should have been out of Afghanistan quickly, and never BK>> in Iraq. I was talking about the republican reaction to a screw BK>> up series of wars, vs doing nothing or something now. ... LL> example, President Bush was warned well ahead of time that LL> terrorists were planning such a strike, yet chose to LL> nothing to prevent it. His bosses at the Project for a New American Century over ruled him. It was their excuse to have the war they so long wanted. Louis Farrakahn deleted. ... LL> Did the President know about an impending terrorist attack LL> and deliberately choose to do nothing, knowing no wartime LL> President has ever lost a bid for re-election? Did Hid daddy did, but he ended his war too soon. LL> is Minister Farrakhan full of bunk? Yes. ... AK>>> It is not correct. Ask people from Israel or the US what an AK>>> invasion looks like. So far you can't tell of Russian AK>>> "invasion". People must be very accurate in such things. BK>> Putin has backed off. However, it certainly appeared he wanted BK>> to cut the Ukraine up. LL> It was never Putin's intention to invade Ukraine. He might not have intended to, he probably figured it would all be done by proxy. ... LL> The US Congress authorized the use of force in regards to LL> Iraq so that President Bush could force Saddam Hussein to LL> back down - thus allowing UN inspectors to continue their LL> work in Iraq. How did that work out? Instead of diplomacy, That part worked out perfectly. LL> our fine President chose WAR. We were the aggressor. Iraq LL> did not attack the US. We attacked Iraq. That was the catch, the Bush puppet masters never intended anything but invasion. LL> Did Russia invade Crimea? No. LL> Did Russia invade Ukraine? No. LL> The people of Crimea made their own choice to join Russia. LL> Nobody forced them to do that. A vote was held, and it was LL> really no contest. There is no way to really know that. Who counted the votes? ... So nice to have your absurdities back. BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn .... History is a base to build on not a quagmire in which to become immersed. * Silver Xpress V4.5/P [Reg] --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.0pr5 * Origin: Fidonet Since 1991 bbs.docsnetservices.com (1:123/140) .