Subj : Death Wish To : BOB KLAHN From : Lee Lofaso Date : Fri Dec 05 2014 02:07:58 Hello Bob, BK>>> You see, in England they can give heroin to patients in extreme BK>>> pain. That is a big difference. LL>> We give morphine to those we deem in need. And we justify LL>> it on the same grounds as do those in England who give LL>> heroin to patients. BK> Except that Heroin is not legal here, yet, from what I have BK> read, much more effective. So is a quick punch to the head. But with morphine, or heroin, one does not have to break a hand or crack a skull. BK>>> Then there's the fear of making terminal patients drug addicts. LL>> It is not just terminal patients who are drug addicts. BK> Yeah, but worrying about making terminal patients into drug BK> addicts is terminal stupidity. The medical establishment has been making nonterminal patients into drug addicts for years. Doctors write a scrip for painkillers. Their patient takes the pills for three to six months, and becomes addicted. No longer being able to get a scrip for those [legal] drugs, patients turn to other sources. A few decades ago we called folks like that `junkies'. Today we call those same folks our next door neighbors. BK>>> The other fear is, the drugs will shorten the patient's life. LL>> Yeah. That's like saying pot will stunt your growth. LL>> Nobody on painkillers/heroin is going to believe that. BK> Any patient dying in agony might consider that a blessing. At least they get a high when going out the door. BK>>> Chose, 6 weeks of extreme pain, or 4 weeks free from pain. BK>>Not hard BK> by my thinking. LL>> Hit me, man! Hit me! I wanna feel good hoo ha! BK> SMACK! Now behave yourself. Thanks! I needed that! LL>> In theory, the same could be done with humans. Would LL>> cloning humans for body parts be ethical? I doubt it. LL>> Which is why we should clone neandertals instead. BK> No, repubicans will do just as well. I'm not sure anybody would want any of John Boehner's body parts. I mean, the guy does smoke like a chimney ... --Lee --- MesNews/1.08.05.00-gb * Origin: news://felten.yi.org (2:203/2) .