Subj : Re: Todays Classic Ad To : Ed Vance From : Daryl Stout Date : Fri Oct 10 2025 16:55:50 Ed, EV> Daryl, When rereading this today I thought about Tow Boats on EV> the rivers and Large Vessels on the oceans. EV> Those can't stop quickly either. EV> That Captain had the same feelings that Railroad Engineers have EV> when vehicles are on the Tracks in front of them. Exactly. And, the moving current doesn't help things, either. EV> Myself, I cause Road Rage at a nearby Crossing because I slow EV> way down and look left and right before going through the EV> crossing. I do that because I am afraid there may be a EV> Electrical Power Failure that has prevented the Signals or EV> Guard Gate operating. Normally, the crossings where electronic signals are, have a battery backup power supply, which usually will activate the signals, and lower the gates, when power is lost to the bungalo signal box. However, those batteries don't last forever (as does nothing in this life). Apparently, the signals deactivate when the battery backup is about to run out, then they don't work at all. At that point, it's the same is a private grade crossing with only a crossbuck. After Hurricane Charlie several years ago devastated much of Florida, damaging much of the railroad and other infrastructure, most of the signals went dark. As a result, there were "slow orders" for all the trains (including Amtrak), and the crossings had to be "flagged", where a member of the crew (likely the Conductor) would get off, walk to the crossing, with a flag, and possibly the flares, to stop traffic. When the locomotive eased into the crossing to fully block it, the Conductor got back on, and the train went on its way. Or, if some of the railroad management were involved as flaggers, they had HT's to communicate with the dispatcher and the engineer, to advise that they could proceed at restricted speed, and that the crossing was flagged. The flagger would also check once the rear of the train had passed, to verify that the end of train device/marker was there, and was activated. I remember while still living in Florida, there were warning signs at one crossing noting that "the signals were not working, and to use caution". Before I had to quit driving, the grade crossing only 1/4 mile away from my house was activated (gates down and lights flashing), but there was no train. I called the number on the Emergency Notification System (ENS) sign, and was told which options to choose. If there was a derailment, a hotbox or railcar fire (especially if there was hazardous materials involved (with a colored placard on the side))...you would choose option 1. If there was a vehicle blocking the crossing, the signals weren't working, or they were broken, to choose option 2. On the ENS sign was the location of the crossing, the host railroad, the milepost, and a department of transportation ID number. You would give all that to the dispatcher at the other end of the line. They, in turn, would change the signals, issue slow orders, and contact the crew...along with other local area emergency personnel. They will also dispatch maintenance of way (MOW) personnel, to work on repairing the signals. If this is done as soon as it occurs (or very shortly thereafter), there is a higher chance of stopping an approaching train before it slams into stuff at the crossing, or a derailment and fiery explosion results, which requires evacuations. I have reported this to Union Pacific Railroad (the main railroad through Little Rock) more than once...and I gave them my name, and my amateur radio callsign. Only in America...we rush to beat: 1) The traffic lights at intersections. 2) The trains at railroad crossings. 3) The boats at draw bridges. Yet, we'll stand patiently for 3 hours on the golf course. EV> Yes, I am a case. They haven't found me yet. EV> Please don't tell em. They probably wouldn't want you...or me, either. 73, Daryl, N5VLZ .... And there were plagues of locusts, and frogs, and MS-DOS, and MS Windows. === MultiMail/Win v0.52 --- SBBSecho 3.29-Win32 * Origin: The Thunderbolt BBS - Little Rock, Arkansas (1:19/33) .