Subj : Bluetooth To Ethernet To : Ky Moffet From : Barry Martin Date : Sun Apr 05 2026 07:43:00 Hi Ky! > > > > DS> I choose A -- unless you can't put it into reverse. > > > > Hmm: if reverse a backup does that erase the media?! > > > KM> Actually, that's exactly what "sync" does. > > > KM> Delete file on one end, also deleted on the other. > > > Which sort of makes sense: "I want the two to be duplicates". Great KM> or > > > restores, not so great for "oh poop I hit the wrong button!". > > KM> Or moved the file, and now it's no longer where sync thinks it > > KM> should be, so *POOF*. > > Oh no!! I have moved files to a new subdir because the separation now > > makes sense. > KM> *POOF* > And the whole purpose of the backup has been eradicated. KM> YA THINK??!!! Sometimes! And one of the problems with testing backups is making sure all of what one wanted backed up was actully backed up: permissions errors, etc. > > KM> Onedrive deletes any local files you copied to the cloud, even > > KM> worse! > > That's no longer a backup but primary location. :( > KM> Perzac'ly. :( > Repeat my initial response! KM> my initial response! So the data originally on the computer-at-hand is now in the cloud, where it must be retrieved back to the local computer before it can be used. ...Doesn't sound all that efficient to me. > > KM> Yeah, that's a problem. Or why when I make a backup, it stays > > KM> wherever I put it. I might have to root through a dozen (nobody > > KM> labels these things) HDDs and flash drives to find it, but it > > KM> didn't get deleted. > > Right: it's there. somewhere. > Properly would have an identified rolling routine. Recallng > the 'tons' of floppies I had for backups. The 'roll' was in separate > boxes. More floppies, more storage boxes, more space. KM> I never overwrote an old backup, so I still have... ALL of them. "Hey! Anyone got an 8" floppy drive?" ...For some situations I could see keeping the 'antique' backups. For my usage I can't, other than as part of a current set of backups. (I have the backup start with a new one periodically, which copies everything. ...Hopefully (see above!). > > > Personally I would go with remote storage, but under my terms. Make > > > backup for here plus duplicate it and store at a friend's place (and > > > they could store theirs at my place). > > KM> I store critical files on my web hosting. So long as I pay the > > KM> bill, there they sit. :) > > Yes, a backup of the backup is good! Don't need everything, but > > sometimes easier to copy all than selected files. > KM> And I have "incrementals" going back years, because I just add > KM> another ZIP (well, RAR) to the pile. > I don't do the > incrementals of that length -- I think "long ones" are configured for 6 > months and then start a new one. KM> These are variants of the same files, but I want the different KM> versions. So.... they're not much, a complete zip is about 8mb. As long as the ability to access is still available -- probbaly more importantly on-hand. I'm thinking of situations like where suddenly my old NAS was not able to store or retrieve files. Nothing wrong with the NAS; nothing wrong with my computer. The problem was some security protocol was upgraded; the NAS wasn't able to upgrade itself to use the new protocol so my computer had to be specifically told to use the old protocol with this device. > KM> I have "unlimited" space there, tho in practice I think they > KM> limit it to 200GB. > At first thinking that's not nearly enough space but then looking at > this computer. Has a 3 TB drive but I'm only using 694 GB of that for > actual storage: 27%. Still, way pver that possible 200 GB limit. KM> I presently have about 27TB online and running, but about 10TB of KM> that actually full of something. Plus the 8TB that's supposed to KM> be for backup of the other aging external drives (coming 9 years KM> old, and one is supposedly a Green inside). 'Green': the model verson or colour because of mold?! KM> Some people never throw anything away. Updating just because there is something new available isn't always the best idea, thought not updating can also cause problems. I will eventually toss old electronics but I pretty much have to prove to myself it is not worth of being retained. OTOH I sometimes have that part I need in stock! ¯ ® ¯ BarryMartin3@MyMetronet.NET ® ¯ ® .... Q: Why stop the leper hockey game? A: There was a face off in corner. --- MultiMail/Win32 v0.47 þ wcECHO 4.2 ÷ ILink: The Safe BBS þ Bettendorf, IA þ RNET 2.10U: ILink: Techware BBS þ Hollywood, Ca þ www.techware2k.com --- QScan/PCB v1.20a / 01-0462 * Origin: ILink: CFBBS | cfbbs.no-ip.com (454:1/1) .