Subj : Re: dancing was: peeves To : Daryl Stout From : Nancy Backus Date : Sat Feb 22 2020 20:53:30 -=> Quoting Daryl Stout to NANCY BACKUS on 17-Feb-2020 17:33 <=- DS>> There was an article in the ham radio magazine I read, noting that DS>> "the old timers need to embrace the new technologies". The 7 last DS>> words of a church, hobby club, etc. are "We never did it that way DS>> before". NB>> And that is the other side of the decline... DS> Sad, but true. Yet, so many feel like the changes are being forced DS> on them. But, you can't live in the past. No, you can't live in the past, but one doesn't have to throw away all the old ways either.... There needs to be a balance there... DS> In one of my other hobbies (square dancing), there are some folks DS> who don't have, can't get, or don't want, a computer or internet DS> access. When I started the hobby 35 years ago, there were over 1200 DS> print subscribers. When I became Circulation Chairman (actually, I DS> volunteered ) 12 years ago, that had plunged to 450, but 10 percent DS> of those were expired. DS> At the start of the Fall Festival Dance, we had plunged to 24. So, I DS> (and the other officers) made a big plea, saying that "if we don't get DS> subscriptions or ads, the print edition will go away". We changed the DS> format to black and white only, printed on maybe 7 pieces of paper, DS> double sided, folded in half, and we pay the first class postage. It DS> has saved the organization considerable money. I suspect that has been happening in all sorts of organizations... One of the genealogical societies I'm a member of, among the benefits is a quarterly scholarly journal and a newsletter (was 6/yr, now changing to quarterly also)... Starting last year, they started charging an extra $10 a year for getting the newsletter in a print form instead in email... Another genealogical society also has a quarterly journal and a nesletter... that one charges a lot more for membership than the first one I mentioned... and probably has a larger membership as well... DS> They can list fliers for special dances in the e-Edition and on the DS> website for free, but have to pay to have something in the print DS> edition. We may soon reduce the cost of those, since it doesn't cost DS> as much as before with the postage and printing. Yet, I'll bet there'll DS> be some cheapskates who'll still say "that's too expensive". Robert DS> Heinlein was right when he said TANSTAFFL -- but few folks will admit DS> to it. DS> Right now, we have 58 print subscriptions...with a large majority DS> expiring in February and November...and maybe a half dozen in May and DS> August (the months will fill back in, as folks renew or sign up). DS> Several had renewed only because we went back to monthly...but if DS> funds start drying up, we'll go back to quarterly, or eliminate the DS> print version entirely. Maybe as the older generation dies off, and you are left with just the youngsters who were weaned on technology, you'll not need to have the print version, but for those that aren't online, or those that have limited computing, having a print version is vital for them to stay connected to the organization.... DS> Data wise, many clinics require you to enter data on an iPad, but I DS> still bring in an 11 page med list. I tell them "you'll rarely find a DS> medical history that thorough"...and they have to admit that I'm DS> right. My late wife got me started on that. She had each section in a DS> different color, but just "black and white" is good enough for me. Mine isn't nearly that much, but I do have a one-page cheat sheet that has the vital information on it.... saves the memory from overheating, and can cut down on how much I have to enter at the doctor offices... NB>> Today's towns are generally patrolled by the county Sheriff office... DS> If they're lucky, they have at least one stoplight. But, like on DS> the episode of "I Dream Of Jeannie" the speed limit was in microscopic DS> small print at the bottom of the sign. :P There are a number of small towns in the vicinity of our camp up in Northern New York.... no stoplights in most of them, but the speed limits are the regulation size... no entrapment there, usually... There are stop signs where needed, though... :) NB>> For those that do go that way, maybe... In the meantime, there still is NB>> the older technology, still valid, for instance the landline telephone NB>> for communications... ;) DS> True. I saw a cartoon with a rotary phone, and two small cellphones DS> walking into the room, and they say "Grandma!!" Cute. ttyl neb .... When did my wild oats turn to shredded wheat? :-( --- EzyBlueWave V3.00 01FB001F * Origin: Tiny's BBS - http://www.tinysbbs.com (454:1/452) .