Subj : Slimmed down Debian To : Ky Moffet From : Barry Martin Date : Sat Aug 01 2020 10:11:00 Hi Ky! > KM> So he got proof that it was bad (because I sent it back) but he > KM> didn't have to pay the return postage (because he refused it). > Sort of something like when a household appliance fails and the > manufacturer just wants the cord sent back. If the cord is integrated KM> I've never had to do that, but yeah, same principle. I don't recall have to do either -- may have been an almost-return or something from when working at the store. > > As for the finding the contact (or possibly non-contact) point -- good > KM> Need higher magnification! > Need a microscope! KM> Or at least one of those lens-and-light contraptions you hang on KM> your face! By nails or glue? Yes: have seen them and there have been times when would have come in handy here. > > > I think it's "measure twice, cut once", not the other way around! > > KM> I cut it three times, and it's STILL too short!! > > But is it getting better? > KM> No, but the pile of sawdust is getting bigger! > The termites are impressed with your work! KM> I am not impressed with the termites. (Tried to type 'turnips'.) Turnips didn't care at all!! > > So slowly accustoming yourself to civilization! Though > KM> It's embarrassing > I can't decide between visualizing you as the male version of Goldilocks/ > Cinderella/some Disney character in a flowing gown and the birds singing > and landing on your shoulders or a snarling werewolf-like caveman -- > either would work in the privacy of a forest but not so good in town. KM> Snarling Cinderella. My, what big -- oops! Plus that's Little Red Riding Hood. :) > KM> Had similar problem... flaws they could tell were there but not > KM> where, and fixing this didn't fix that... their guy finally gave > KM> up and just rewired the house, AND buried new cable out to the > KM> street. > Too bad he didn't use waterproof cable! KM> Haha, well, I hope it was waterproof... temporary cable laid on KM> the ground all winter! They didn't try to bury with four feet of snow and frozen ground?! > KM> Who ever heard of using .4.x ??! > Metronet I guess! Or EERO - the router manufacturer. KM> Never heard of 'em, which might be the problem... standards? KM> whose?? Where's that tagline about "standards -- so many to choose from"! ...I guess that's an advatage of being undereducated in stuff like that: 0.x, 1.x -- seen and used those, so 4.x -- sure, why not?! https://eero.com. The small white box on the table on the home page is what I have. ...Wandered a bit and didn't see any information on the LAN IP address aspect. > > KM> [Speaking of freight: we're on day 12 for a priority parcel from > > KM> the Bay area, tho it's finally made it to Billings... 9 days for > > KM> the previous two from CA... methinks CA's mail system is totally > > KM> busted.] > > Overnight -- you didn't specify which night!! > KM> Apparently not! > Ever get it? KM> Yes, on day 15! four days for the last ten miles... I walked faster than that when I had to use the walker due to the broken leg! OK, so the street was paved - a gravel road and the small wheels on the walker would have slowed me down to maybe that speed!! KM> Client in L.A. area beats that, tho -- today he reports 21 days KM> for a small parcel. Must be vacation season... they're all taking KM> the scenic route! The problem is that 'priority' label: requires special handling. A few years ago I ordered something - I think after lunch or maybe in the afternoon: was on the doorstep next day!! Regular ol' shipping -- free; no three-day or overnight. > KM> Yeah. STOP FIXING STUFF ALREADY!!! > No, fixing/correcting is fine, it's the breaking of stuff that used to > work is the problem! KM> Is that the problem? I thought they said it was fixed!! Maybe thought they said 'fixed' and was really 'mixed'! > > I know I don't have any laptop-sized memory 'in stock'. > KM> Heh... neither do I. Well, from this century, anyway. > Even if was twenty years old and it might work I'm sure you would have > tried it. KM> Sadly, it suffers from the same issue as desktop memory.. it KM> comes in a dozen formats, all mutually incompatible. Unfortunately. Must admit it is probably a case of good news and bad news: good news is the particular format is faster but the bad news is it doesn't work with the other formats. > OK - I'm thinking a constant voltage applied to the speaker would just > move the cone once and no sound, wheras the same constant voltage to the > LED would light it constantly and so be useful. Speakers need an > oscillating or pulsing voltage, which applied to the LED would cause it > to flicker, though fast enough would appear on but possibly dim. KM> Well, how much does a case speaker do? It just beeps... Oh yeah? I've have audio out of mine! One system years ago I couldn't figure out how to shut off the internal speaker so ended up unplugging it. > True! One sometimes has a 50-50 chance if plugged in right. If the > speaker doesn't beep and it's supposed to flip around. Preferably > before buttoning up the case! KM> I'm not sure they care... Speakers would not; piezo would, or generally do. > KM> Only so-called thermal grease I've seen that's actually better > KM> than just filling any air gaps with literally any handy goo > KM> (toothpaste, vegemite, spit...) is copper-based. Should get some > KM> more of that.... > If you order a Raspberry Pi 4 kit by Viros and it's the one with the > metal heatsink case it comes with a small tube of thermal compound. > Don't know what it's composition is. KM> Most of 'em are probably chemically vaseline plus toothpaste. Yummy! KM> Well, here's a discussion: KM> https://www.eevblog.com/forum/beginners/what-are-the-ingredients-i KM> n-thermal-pas KM> e/ (added the missing 't') ...JIF peanut butter?!?! ROTFL!! The video is a riot!! KM> OH! Someone referenced it! KM> http://www.dansdata.com/goop.htm Well at least with the toothpaste my CPU pins should be bright and shiny! > KM> Trouble is, whatever a person thinks of first invariably > KM> sticks... > "Peezapoop"?! KM> To the computer, not the wall!! Oh, sorry! > KM> Right now I have Confusion. Cash is doing Silver's old job, using > KM> Silver's old HDs. Silver is now called Tarnish, but at the moment > KM> has Cash's old PCLOS in it (which fortunately doesn't call itself > KM> Cash, so no network-names conflict). Silver's old case with new > KM> guts is now called Silver II, but presently has Lightfoot's Win7 > KM> in it (Lightfoot being semi-retired). > So do your computer cases have name tags on them?! KM> No, but a couple have numbers, so I can remember which KM> keyboard/mouse belongs to each (for those that won't speak to KM> USB-via-KVM -- seems to be a hardware thing, not OS. Why of three KM> identical Dells, will only one speak to the USB-via-KVM? Yet KM> Fireball will no matter which OS, including clones of the OS KM> installs from the Dells.) They only appears tor be identical! Just like interchangeable parts won't! > > > "ThermalTake". And I have a case for a project that's been on hold > > > from Raijintek - oh poop! > > KM> It's better if you can pronounce 'em... > > Maybe that will be it's name: "Unpronounceable" or maybe "Mumble"! > KM> Hahaha yes... just don't complain when it doesn't come when > KM> called! > Unless it's the robotics project! KM> Here, Doggie! KM> Have you seen Atlas doing parkour? :D KM> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LikxFZZO2sk KM> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sBBaNYex3E KM> I wish my gyro worked that good! Until I looked closely at the hip juctions it almost seemed like a human gymnast was in a robot costume. > KM> Such as... apparently Fireball has no IDE support. Add-on card is > KM> seen but not heard... won't boot with IDE anything attached. Did > KM> finally get XP64 installed, but had to switch SATA to IDE mode > KM> (then why do we not support IDE HDs?), and apparently it required > KM> part of a failed install to be there first. I swear it finally > KM> installed by sheer failure to remember that it had decided it was > KM> impossible. > Good Grief!! As for the IDE card beding seen but not heard, that sort > of makes sense. I had a external HDD adapter which I used occasionally; > suddenly stopped working. Problem was the 'identification code' was no > longer listed so the operating system didn't know what to do with it. > (The 'list' was on the OS side -- could have plugged the external drive > into a system with an older OS version and it would have worked.) KM> Oh, you mean that code USB stuff gets individually ID'd with? Yes: abcd:1234. > KM> And now need to find Intel C600 SAS driver for XP64 (and for > KM> Win7)... Lenovo's provided SAS driver is for the wrong chip (LSI, > KM> which is not what it is). PCLOS found it just fine... well, it is > KM> an old chip. > Sounds similar to my external HDD adapter issue. KM> Nah, this is just Lenovo's provided download is the wrong driver. Starting to wonder if Lenovo isn't as good as I thought they were. Friend in Nevada has been looking at their line but appears they only do 'medium' instead of high-end ==> Intel i5's but no i7's. OTOH I was liking them when buying refurbished equipment as lots of detail in the manuals, sturdily constructed hardware, etc. > KM> I have a few of those $3 USB WiFi dongles... if you get 'em with > OK , so that pretty much verifies it's 'them' and not 'me'. Haven't had > any other connection issues so was pretty sure the problem was in the > notebook. ...Still waiting for the dongle: ordered super-cheap from > Amazon from an overseas vendor; wasn't in any big rush. And what I > think is funny is my old-probably-antique Lenovo T61 laptop (possibly > 2007) has 5 GHz Wifi and the HP notebook doesn't. KM> I only have one with ac wireless, and it sure does hog the KM> network -- won't share gracefully. Or maybe that's Win8.1 (what KM> that laptop came with). HOWEVER... with Win10, the cheap n KM> dongles get the same speed.. so Win10 does ONE thing right! Oops! Fire that programmer!! ....Your "not share gracefully" comment is causing me to wonder about an issue here: I have a Raspberry Pi Frontend which isn't connecting lately; recently noted problem but also something I'm not using consistently so not sure when it started. Just installed a dual-band dongle to a laptop, which corrected that problem; wondering if it's the cause of the RPi problem? (No overlapping of IP addresses, but maybe bandwidth hogging?) > > KM> Well, I could use two laptop drives in the single 3.5" internal > > KM> bay, and an NVMe on an adapter in the 4x PCI3 slot, but... since > > KM> I have other options, why?? still inflexible once you put the lid > > KM> back on. > > Duct tape and 3D printing come to mind! > KM> There's the next generation in PC cases!! > Custom create your own!! KM> Is thought... I don't like the newer cases at all, and am glad I KM> hoarded all those old RaidMax cases. Plain beige, all metal, and KM> ten drive bays. Cheap, ugly, and fully functional. Three out of three's not bad! > > KM> Snipping rest or I'll never get this sent... > > KM> "Did you write the Great American Novel?" > > KM> "No, just an average reply on the BBS." > > Really! I'm showing 491 lines, which I think would be about 8 pages if > > printed out -- just a phamphlet! > KM> A mere short story.! > I/we did snip some! I'm showing this is line 389. :) KM> Shorter yet! Holy poopies: Line 294!!! > > .. ERROR: Computer is way too old for this nonsense. > KM> ERROR: User is way too old for this nonsense. > All this nonsense is way too old! KM> Which nonsense you sayin' is too old? The old nonsense, of course!! ¯ ® ¯ BarryMartin3@ ® ¯ @MyMetronet.NET ® ¯ ® ¯ (Humans know what ® ¯ to remove.) ® .... 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