Subj : Remmina RDP To : Mike Powell From : Barry Martin Date : Mon May 06 2024 07:30:00 Hi Mike! > It seems Remmina and Wayland don't get along all that well. Remmina > plays nice with X11, but Bookworm uses Wayland. There is a way to > switch to Wayland back to X11 -- should be easy enough to find else with > a bit of digging I could find it in my notes. I elected not to switch > back as thinking if I revert back then ll run into problems because > eventually X11 will be depreciated and I'm back to the current problem. MP> That was sort of my thinking when I upgraded to Bookworm... that MP> I was better off going ahead with Wayland because X11 is closer MP> to "going away." ;) Right. I have no idea why X11 can't do what Wayland does, or even what the difference is: video display looks the same to me. "Obviously" something is, determined by people who know more about it that I do. > IceWM seems to use (or plays nice with) Wayland. LXQT seems to be based > on X11: I was looking around for hints and one of the hits was "LXQt > Desktop Now '100%' Ready For Wayland", which to me implies it currently > uses X11, which might be why Remmina uses it. MP> That could very well be it. I assumed it was something happening MP> on the host system (i.e. the RDP daemon was choosing LXQt) but MP> maybe it is directly related to Remmina as the client. Based on my very limited experience I would say Remmina is the problem in that it doesn't have a Wayland-compatible element. (For those reading along and not familiar with Remmina one needs to select a protocol to view the rmeote screen.) > You might want to try an alternative remote desktop utility; here I've > been using TigerVNC. ...Using Remmina because of its nice chart/listing > feature: I can scan the chart for "Pi Clock" instead of 192.168.4.64). > For the Wayland-running systems I use TigerVNC and right now just type > in the IP. MP> It is not a super big problem as the system I am remoting into MP> has plenty of horsepower. A couple of other machines I have are MP> not really capable of running something as lean as even LXQt so I MP> only ever use IceWM on them when logged on locally. I don't MP> currently remote into them too often. MP> That said, this is a suggestion I need to keep in mind. I may MP> give Tiger a try if I have some spare time. Is it a client, or MP> do you need to install something special on the host end also? TigerVNC is installed only on the one 'main' system, the one you are one using to look at the remote systems. The remote systems do not have to have anything special other than VNC enabled (I'm thinking the Raspberry Pi bring-up routine; to desktops similar). Might also have to have Remmina installed on the remote systems, and I think that's only to have needed libraries installed. Seemed like one new Pi I was playing with didn't need Remmina and the other only connected after Remmina was installed. (The currently-in-use Pi don't count as they already had Remmina installed.) So TigerVNC is only needed on the 'main' computer. The remote system needs VNC activated and may or may not need Remmina to install some mystery stuff. (I probably need to look at the how to properly install TigerVNC!) ....OK, since I'm a bit doi-it-right-the-first-time compulsive did a quick look and found this article: https://picockpit.com/raspberry-pi/tigervnc-and-realvnc-on-raspberry-pi- bookworm-os/ Some of the steps don't seem necessary but I'm only following along in my mind. One "not necessary" was in his 'VNC Viewer Connect' picture: he is using a port number whereas I don't. (Maybe he revised his port numbers for security reasons? -- Just told the world!) MP> * SLMR 2.1a * Ultimate office automation: networked coffee MP> machines. --- SBBSecho 3.20-Linux MP> * Origin: ILink: CCO - capitolcityonline.net (454:3/105) MP> þ RNET 2.10U: ILink: Christian Fellowship þ cfbbs.no-ip.com þ MP> 856 933-7096 ¯ ® ¯ BarryMartin3@MyMetronet.NET ® ¯ ® .... She was like a magnet: attractive from back, repulsive from front. --- MultiMail/Win32 v0.47 þ wcECHO 4.2 ÷ ILink: The Safe BBS þ Bettendorf, IA --- QScan/PCB v1.20a / 01-0462 * Origin: ILink: CFBBS | cfbbs.no-ip.com | 856-933-7096 (454:1/1) .