Subj : Re: GIMP Up
To   : Mike Powell
From : Ky Moffet
Date : Sat Aug 30 2025 12:25:00

MIKE POWELL wrote:
>>>    > The GIMP is up to a newer version now and it has some annoying quirks.
>>> You can stick with 2.10 if you like.
> 
>> You either need to use a flatpak or run it in a VM, because otherwise
>> sooner or later preserving an old version of anything will run you into
>> Dependency Hell.
> 
> Even if it is a flatpak it can get broken.  I was running an older version
> of shotcut, installed outside of apt/dpkg, because the debian version
> that came with 11 or 12 did not work.  I always assumed it needed too many
> resources.

Meaning  the flatpak just keeps that program and its immediate 
dependencies together, but does nothing for what it has to interface 
with in the OS itself.


> With the upgrade to 13, it became unable to render video.  I was able to
> install the version that comes with 13 and it did work, thank goodness.

Oh my... I'm reminded I need to upgrade the Debian I keep on General 
Principles, tho I don't use it for anything. And here I just got it 
updated to 12, which had refused to update but would install over the 
top of 10 without messing up the existing setup. My brain hurts.

> About the only way to keep older versions working is to run a vm with the
> older distro, or stop upgrading.

It's gotten that way, yeah.

> I hate to say it, but I can see a time in the near future where keeping up
> with the latest linux releases (so one can keep up with the security
> updates!) is going to be just like keeping up with windows... lots of stuff
> breaking and lots of "it isn't a bug, it's a feature" instances.  :(

Too late. It's already there. I just had Fedora apparently commit 
sepukku post update. Had to drop back one kernel to get a desktop.

(Mine are all KDE, which has generally been pretty good about not 
breaking even with major version upgrades. KDE itself is fine, it's 
somewhere in the guts that failed.)
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