Subj : Is Intel's nightmare finally over? One last patch could fix 13th- To : All From : TechnologyDaily Date : Thu Sep 26 2024 12:15:04 Is Intel's nightmare finally over? One last patch could fix 13th-gen and 14th-gen CPU instability issues Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2024 11:07:45 +0000 Description: Intel concludes its investigation into unstable CPUs, and a third, but final, patch is coming to resolve the mess. FULL STORY ====================================================================== Intel has finally brought the investigation into its problematic 13th and 14th-gen CPUs to an apparent close, with a final summary of four main factors that caused the instability issues, and the revelation that an additional patch is required to remedy the fourth stumbling block. VideoCardz noticed that Intels Communications Manager, Thomas Hannaford, posted a further update to provide these details. The final patch required as a preventative measure to mitigate the gremlins in the works going forward with 13th and 14th-gen processors will be microcode update 0x12B. This addresses the final problem Intel discovered, namely: Microcode and BIOS code requesting elevated core voltages which can cause Vmin shift especially during periods of idle and/or light activity. This patch will come with the previous two microcode fixes rolled into it, namely 0x125 and 0x129, which address issues with how Thermal Velocity Boost (TVB) was misfiring, and elevated operating voltages due to a flaky algorithm, respectively. Those are the three main factors involved in the instability on Intels side, with the fourth point and the first matter to be raised by Intel being motherboard power delivery settings having been notched up over and above Team Blues guidance levels. That led Intel to clarify new default power settings for CPUs from these two generations . Analysis: No performance hit is promised with the new fix With this latest fourth root cause revealed, its a little worrying that the elevated voltages have been happening during periods when the PC is doing nothing, or very little, as this means that potentially the degradation occuring to the chip has been happening pretty much constantly. As you may recall, Intel has extended the warranty for these processors to five years though beyond that, you may still suffer a CPU that fails earlier than it should, perhaps due to these issues in its early life. Not a pleasant thought. We dont know when this final microcode update will arrive Intel doesnt give us any kind of timeframe but presumably itll be fairly soon. And presumably, it will be the final one, as the statement provided is certainly worded as if Intel has concluded its investigation (notably, the investigation was referred to as ongoing when the last microcode update was announced). As with the previous microcode patch, there will be a delay, though, as Intel works with motherboard makers to get the new 0x12B update ready and packaged in the various different BIOS releases from these multiple hardware vendors. All you can do is keep an eye on your motherboard manufacturers website for a new BIOS release, and likely the next one will pack this final fix. (Image credit: Future / John Loeffler) The good news is that according to Intels testing, the new 0x12B update doesnt impact performance compared to a PC running with the first microcode patch applied and thats for both running applications, and games, which remain within run-to-run variation (in other words, any difference is negligible). That is just Team Blues internal testing mind, and of course the company notes that system performance is dependent on configuration and several other factors as always. Intel has again confirmed that the issues relating to elevated voltages and other gremlins therein with Raptor Lake and its current-gen refresh will not affect any future CPUs. Team Blue specifically clarifies that this means its next silicon in line, Lunar Lake (laptop chips that have only just debuted) and Arrow Lake (desktop processors which are imminent, and some high-end laptop too). Theres one notable oddity in the statement, and thats Intel saying the new microcode update will be provided via a BIOS release to for all Intel Core 13th/14th-gen desktop processor users (bolding added by us for emphasis). Previously, it was announced that all Core i3 and Core i5 (save for the 14600K and 13600K) processors werent affected, and havent had to be patched so is the entire 13th and 14th-gen line-up set to be patched in the coming days? This could just be an oversight by Intel, and the company might mean all affected Intel CPUs well have to wait for further clarification. Those Core i3 and i5 models shouldnt need patching now, though, if they didnt before. You might also like Processor upgrade: how to choose the right CPU Best gaming CPU: 5 top processors reviewed and rated Here are the best cheap processor deals right now ====================================================================== Link to news story: https://www.techradar.com/computing/cpu/is-intels-nightmare-finally-over-one-l ast-patch-could-fix-13th-gen-and-14th-gen-cpu-instability-issues --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 (Linux/64) * Origin: tqwNet Technology News (1337:1/100) .