00:00:00 --- log: started forth/05.12.08 00:50:11 --- quit: madgarden (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01:09:46 --- join: amca (n=plump@as-bri-4-1-23.ozonline.com.au) joined #forth 01:10:46 Hallo 01:46:27 --- join: segher (n=segher@blueice2n1.de.ibm.com) joined #forth 01:52:57 --- quit: JasonWoof ("off to bed") 01:58:38 --- quit: segher () 02:10:02 amca: jow 02:10:13 hello 02:12:24 Hi humulus 02:12:32 How goes the ppc asm? 02:12:49 Have you ever used any other asm before? 02:12:58 currently it sucks, can't find a bug 02:13:03 damn 02:13:04 i told you already that 02:13:15 Gonna give your brain a break to sift through it? 02:13:41 I thought you igfht have, but I cant remember sorry - I have a pretty bad memory for a lot of things 02:13:52 amca: alpha, avr? 02:14:06 that's the last time i tell you that :) 02:14:15 ok :) 02:14:25 Next time I ask just tell me to grep the logs ;) 02:14:47 which os do you use ? 02:14:55 Linux FC4 02:14:56 U? 02:15:25 debian, ubuntu, gentoo mainly 02:15:38 * amca nods 02:16:11 For my main computer I prefer to use a more userfriendly distro, but when I have other computers up., Ill put more customised distros on them 02:17:01 wtf? ubuntu is userfriendly ;P 02:18:18 I havent tried that one yet - it is too modern for me to have played with :) 02:18:19 which wm/desktop? 02:18:28 GNOME 02:18:55 For the main comp. For the customised comps I will probably use console or bbox/fluxbox 02:20:53 currently checking e17 out 02:21:58 e17? Enlightenment 17? 02:22:10 jow 02:23:22 My gosh, it has been ages since I used that one 02:26:25 what do you like about forth? 02:27:47 it's different 02:27:59 compact 03:38:01 --- quit: amca ("d34d") 05:03:50 --- quit: saon ("Lost terminal") 05:11:56 --- join: saon (i=1000@unaffiliated/saon) joined #forth 05:13:04 --- join: PoppaVic (n=pete@0-1pool66-189.nas22.chicago4.il.us.da.qwest.net) joined #forth 06:06:48 --- quit: madwork (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06:08:30 --- join: tathi (n=josh@pdpc/supporter/bronze/tathi) joined #forth 06:12:06 --- join: madwork (n=foo@derby.metrics.com) joined #forth 07:36:42 --- join: segher (n=segher@blueice3n1.de.ibm.com) joined #forth 08:13:10 help 08:13:21 segher: jow 08:13:44 still having trouble with your assembler? 08:14:37 yup 08:15:21 what's the trouble now? 08:15:53 the same as yesterday 08:16:07 I missed that 08:16:10 * tathi goes to check the logs 08:16:21 tathi: wait 08:16:44 i have a create does> word which is called asm-xo-1 08:17:06 this word is with a probability of 99% correct 08:17:33 and somewhre later in my code i have 08:17:34 $10A asm-xo-1 add 08:17:38 $A asm-xo-1 addc 08:17:41 and so on 08:18:00 ok 08:18:01 and funny thing is when i load the source, it says stack underflow 08:18:45 but when i comment the lines with $10A asm-xo-1 add etc. 08:19:09 and i do $10A asm-xo-1 add in gforth directly and it works wtf ? 08:20:26 huh. 08:22:00 you have no idea ? 08:22:09 me too ;( 08:22:24 I'd have to see the code -- can you post it somewhere? 08:22:28 let's hope someone has not necesserily here 08:23:54 tathi: is query are you registered? 08:24:29 yes, I got it 08:25:24 --- quit: PoppaVic ("bbiab: chores to complete...") 08:26:40 --- join: sproingie (n=chuck@64-121-2-59.c3-0.sfrn-ubr8.sfrn.ca.cable.rcn.com) joined #forth 09:19:44 --- nick: lscd-sleep -> lscd 09:45:30 --- part: segher left #forth 10:06:55 --- join: PoppaVic (n=pete@0-1pool47-136.nas30.chicago4.il.us.da.qwest.net) joined #forth 10:23:47 --- join: JasonWoof (n=jason@c-71-192-20-4.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined #forth 10:23:48 --- mode: ChanServ set +o JasonWoof 10:28:05 man, the code flows like water... Then gets dammed-up... Then flows again. How bizarrely-cyclical. 10:28:43 Pseudoflow cyclicode. 10:29:11 ideas pop in and out.. It's amusing, and I've seen it for years. This is just the latest 10:30:29 * JasonWoof pops downstairs for food 10:31:04 I too am plagued by random torrents of ideas. 10:31:59 it gets weird ;-) do code.... test loop 10:32:05 bulb 10:32:35 I think I'm cogitating a decent system. And, it pleasingly layers well. 10:33:18 hmm...this reminds me of Terry Pratchett's bit about "inspiration particles" travelling through space and striking creatures' minds. 10:33:33 yeah. 10:33:54 but of course the chance of an inspiration particle giving an idea to someone who can actually DO anything with it... :) 10:34:06 I have long believe it to be the diff between "artistry" and "science", as well. 10:34:18 Yes. 10:35:02 oops, Douglas Adams, not Terry Pratchett. 10:35:17 I would even believe that not one "masterpiece" exists that cannot be BETTER EXECUTED by a latecomer, but it would be "different". 10:35:19 Scientists work with facts, artists work with fancy. 10:35:27 madwork: not really 10:35:39 the latter have their own mechanics to follow 10:36:01 ..unless yer talking about the crap feds buy as "art" 10:36:11 I'm not talking about the art at all. 10:36:15 Talking about the people. 10:36:35 Fancy is fleeting. 10:36:58 That's why it's hard to stick with one fanciful idea to completion. 10:37:18 artists are supposed to understand the underlying behaviors/viewpoint. Like savants: it doesn't matter if they are "educated". 10:37:26 Right. 10:37:33 Not talking about education. 10:37:34 madwork: own it; understand it ;-) 10:37:59 ok, looks like they both said it. that's why I'm confused. 10:38:09 madwork: science versus art... It matters in preceptions/acceptance. 10:38:11 Oh, I own it. I'm about as fanciful as they come. :O Just don't be calling me "fancy" or I'll have ta smack you. ;) 10:38:20 hehe 10:38:26 "time is fleeting" ;-) 10:38:31 yes, it is. 10:38:41 Too many disruptive ideas, too little time. 10:38:47 And then, X-Files reruns come on. 10:38:55 I'm damn near too gimpy to do the "Time Warp" ;-) 10:39:43 Anyway, *sigh* Looks like I'm nearing a decently layered-system. 11:03:18 --- quit: PoppaVic ("Pulls the pin...") 12:44:58 --- quit: swalters_ (Connection reset by peer) 12:45:07 --- join: swalters_ (n=swalters@6532183hfc82.tampabay.res.rr.com) joined #forth 13:14:05 --- quit: lscd ("later") 14:24:03 --- join: snoopy_1711 (i=snoopy_1@dslb-084-058-134-176.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 14:24:33 --- quit: Snoopy42 (Nick collision from services.) 14:24:45 --- nick: snoopy_1711 -> Snoopy42 16:49:15 --- nick: nanstm -> Raystm2 16:49:27 --- quit: virl (Remote closed the connection) 16:50:35 --- join: amca (n=plump@as-bri-4-1-55.ozonline.com.au) joined #forth 16:58:34 --- quit: tathi ("leaving") 17:04:26 --- quit: amca ("d34d") 17:05:37 --- join: madgarden (n=madgarde@London-HSE-ppp3545637.sympatico.ca) joined #forth 17:21:09 --- join: crc (n=crc@pool-70-110-222-210.phil.east.verizon.net) joined #forth 17:21:09 --- mode: ChanServ set +o crc 18:03:24 --- quit: crc ("Leaving") 18:06:50 --- join: crc (n=crc@pool-70-110-222-210.phil.east.verizon.net) joined #forth 18:07:05 --- mode: ChanServ set +o crc 20:06:48 --- join: JokeR69 (i=LNIX@12-208-98-237.client.insightBB.com) joined #forth 22:07:21 --- quit: sproingie (Remote closed the connection) 23:08:27 --- quit: JasonWoof ("off to bed") 23:35:24 --- join: amca (n=plump@as-bri-3-240.ozonline.com.au) joined #forth 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/05.12.08