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16:41:08 <erider> hi all 
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16:44:15 <roarde> hi,erider
16:44:36 <erider> hi roarde how are you doing 
16:44:57 <roarde> not bad. still trying to get OS/comp set up
16:45:00 <roarde> yourself?
16:45:50 <erider> pretty good 
16:47:36 <erider> crc: I got the clone to work 
16:48:05 <erider> roarde: OS/comp?? 
16:48:44 <roarde> having to reinstall everything while upgrading to pre-release linux. Had an HD crash.
17:03:43 <erider> ah ok 
17:04:07 <erider> sorry to hear that, did you lose a lot of data? 
17:04:30 <roarde> most of what I lost was obsolete info
17:04:46 <roarde> saved most or all of $HOME that counted, I think
17:06:18 <erider> cool 
17:06:29 <erider> a fresh start I guess 
17:07:13 <roarde> problem is old OS version is too old to reinstall, new version is still deservedly alpha
17:07:57 <erider> roarde: what linux distro are you using 
17:08:24 <roarde> VectorLinux 7 light alpha 5. Slack-based.
17:08:38 <erider> ah ok 
17:08:44 <roarde> I prefer NetBSD, but have better things to do than config :P
17:10:34 <erider> forth has two modes right interpreter/compiler 
17:11:27 <roarde> typically, yes. a few are compile-run with no interpreter, as such
17:13:06 <erider> ah ok just thinking about a python port of toka 
17:14:23 <erider> I almost want to try to write it in scheme just for the learning aspect of doing it 
17:14:54 <roarde> I'm still trying to find time to learn ONE language.
17:15:12 <roarde> The asm I learned back when is obsolete now.
17:17:10 <erider> x86 asm? 
17:17:30 * roarde nods. 80x86.
17:17:59 <roarde> was just picking up on booting 286 protected when I quit.
17:19:53 <erider> so what is that language going to be 
17:20:37 <roarde> grep "brutally minimal" core.rx
17:20:46 <roarde> cut there, take what's above the line
17:21:28 <roarde> crc posted source for that. dunno if I lost it -- can find it online if I did.
17:22:39 <roarde> I'm thinking of generalizing the ngaro asm code for posix and adding framebuffer access
17:23:16 <erider> grep? I wouldn't call that an language 
17:23:58 <roarde> I'll say it clearer: look at core.rx, find "brutally minimal" in a comment
17:24:03 <erider> oops a language 
17:24:15 <roarde> use only that part of retro included down to there
17:24:28 <erider> oh :) 
17:24:33 <roarde> well, start there anyway
17:24:58 <roarde> as for what's a "language", I've used edlin for a command shell
17:27:38 <erider> you had mentioned trying to find time to learn One language. So I was asking which one 
17:28:04 <roarde> right. answer is "a subset of retro".
17:31:33 <erider> ah ok 
17:44:03 <erider> lol yeah I was thinking if someone could write a program in grep that would be neat 
17:45:54 <roarde> can't do it with grep, but can with ed
17:46:52 <erider> ed that stream editor? 
17:47:24 <roarde> sed is a stream editor. ed edits files.
17:48:41 <roarde> basically same thing, but different way of interacting
17:53:10 <erider> ah ok 
17:58:03 * erider has the ed cheat sheet somewhere
18:00:41 <roarde> you're not actually going to look at doing this?
18:01:01 * roarde 's been there. burned the t-shirt.
18:22:38 <erider> what playing with ed? 
18:25:05 <roarde> ed as a programming "language"
18:29:56 <erider> nah I don't think so 
19:21:15 <erider> good night all 
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