Subj : Re: [OT] Yet another Microsoft documentation inconsistency To : All From : address@not.available Date : Thu Jan 31 2019 07:14 pm Path: eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!b order1.nntp.ams1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed8.ne ws.xs4all.nl!nzpost1.xs4all.net!not-for-mail From: "R.Wieser" Newsgroups: alt.msdos.batch.nt,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsx p.help_and_support References: <1wfvvff87ktcc$.21sn6pqzqw5$.dlg@40tude.net> <575d0ce3$0$5866$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> <2mbl0mksq4id$.17gsy0z9rcgth$.dlg@40tude.net> Subject: Re: [OT] Yet another Microsoft documentation inconsistency Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 14:02:36 +0200 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Lines: 69 Message-ID: <575d4ef8$0$5955$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: 83.163.119.5 X-Trace: 1465732856 news.xs4all.nl 5955 83.163.119.5:1228 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: mx02.eternal-september.org alt.msdos.batch.nt:15348 microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:128371 microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support:31856 JJ, > One states that it's ignored in Windows XP, while the other > one doesn't. The latter one is what I ment by my "lying by ommision" remark: It makes you *assume* that the setting it gouverns has an(y) effect, while it actually doesn't. > makes it look that the command may actually exist on Windows > 2000/NT4, kaput on Windows XP, then magically pop ups back > in Vista and later. Pretty much, yes. .... though more "is ignored on OS ***" webpages might be floating around there ... (personally I get the feeling the setting is ignored on all of them) > On WinNT, written data aren't verified. All disk write failures are > hardware failures. ..... > Hopefully, nowadays storage ECCs are reliable enough. I can imagine that for the harddrives (which nowerdays are rather smart and have error checking, repairing and bad-sector management build in), but for (something like) a floppy ? Not so much ... And those floppies where, when XP was young, still in use. Regards, Rudy Wieser -- Origional message: JJ schreef in berichtnieuws 2mbl0mksq4id$.17gsy0z9rcgth$.dlg@40tude.net... > On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 09:20:49 +0200, R.Wieser wrote: > > > > Both can be considered to be true: The one one tells you the command exists > > and what the setting it gouverns its *ment* for, the other one tells you the > > setting is ignored. :-) > > But the conflict remains. One states that it's ignored in Windows XP, while > the other one doesn't. The one that states it's ignored... makes it look > that the command may actually exist on Windows 2000/NT4, kaput on Windows > XP, then magically pop ups back in Vista and later. > > > There remains a question though: does the OS now never, or always check if a > > write-action has succeeded (rather important when writing to a medium like a > > floppy). > > On WinNT, written data aren't verified. All disk write failures are hardware > failures. I've checked all disk related device drivers and there's no > reference to string "verify" except 3 kernel I/O functions which aren't > related to disk-write verify. The File API doesn't seem to provide any > support for it too - *including* transaction-enabled file operations > (ouch!). > > Hopefully, nowadays storage ECCs are reliable enough. --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.1 * Origin: Prison Board BBS Mesquite Tx //telnet.RDFIG.NET www. (1:124/5013) .