Subj : FidoNews submission To : Dan Clough From : Michiel van der Vlist Date : Fri May 30 2025 06:41 pm Hello Dan, On Friday May 30 2025 09:35, you wrote to me: MvV>> But what happened to hat pioneer spirit that once made Fidonet MvV>> great? Fidonet sysops were always eager to try out new technology. MvV>> so what is stopping you from giving IPv6 a try? It isn't really hard MvV>> once you get the hang of it. Why not give it a try? Just for the fun MvV>> of it? DC> My ISP doesn't offer me IPv6. And you are stuck with them? If so I do not envy you. Here I have a choice between over a dozen providers distributed over three fysical media. Nearly all of them offer native IPv6. DC> I'm not interested in putzing around to get some "workaround" tunnel DC> thing working. I have played around with tunnels before I got native IPv6 now nearly a decade ago. It was fun and an interesting experience. DC> Don't have time for such silliness, and there is no "fun of it" for DC> me, as I'm just not interested in something which isn't a problem for DC> me. If you are no longer interested in trying out new things that seem to have no obvious purpose at first glance, why are you still in Fidonet? Fidonet is like a shipping company without passengers or cargo. But we just keep the ships running for the fun of it. It serves no real purpose any more. MvV>> You are welcome to join the IPv6 echo where you can get all the MvV>> help you need from the IPv6 gurus in Fidonet. DC> Yes, I read the echo. Seems to be mostly a self-congratulatory DC> meeting place of mutual celebration/masturbation, Like most of Fidonet... Cheers, Michiel --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303 * Origin: http://www.vlist.org (2:280/5555) .