Subj : Re: FidoNews submission
To   : Michiel van der Vlist
From : Dan Clough
Date : Fri May 30 2025 08:38 pm

-=> Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Dan Clough <=-

 MvV>> But what happened to hat pioneer spirit that once made Fidonet
 MvV>> great? Fidonet sysops were always eager to try out new technology.
 MvV>> so what is stopping you from giving IPv6 a try? It isn't really hard
 MvV>> once you get the hang of it. Why not give it a try? Just for the fun
 MvV>> of it?

 DC> My ISP doesn't offer me IPv6.

 MvV> And you are stuck with them? If so I do not envy you. Here I have a
 MvV> choice between over a dozen providers distributed over three fysical
 MvV> media. Nearly all of them offer native IPv6.

Yes, it is the only realistic option I have.  Not uncommon in the USA as 
far as I know.  Cable/broadband companies often have their "territory" 
and they are the only provider in that area.

 DC> I'm not interested in putzing around to get some "workaround" tunnel
 DC> thing working.

 MvV> I have played around with tunnels before I got native IPv6 now nearly a
 MvV> decade ago. It was fun and an interesting experience.

I like playing with lots of things, but that doesn't interest me in the 
slightest.

 DC> Don't have time for such silliness, and there is no "fun of it" for
 DC> me, as I'm just not interested in something which isn't a problem for
 DC> me.

 MvV> If you are no longer interested in trying out new things that seem to
 MvV> have no obvious purpose at first glance, why are you still in Fidonet?
 MvV> Fidonet is like a shipping company without passengers or cargo. But we
 MvV> just keep the ships running for the fun of it. It serves no real
 MvV> purpose any more.

Well, that may be your opinion.  It serves purposes for me.  I enjoy the 
configuration of FTN software, updating/customizing the BBS, and reading 
echomail traffic.  I mean, we are having this very conversation on 
FidoNet, aren't we?

 MvV>> You are welcome to join the IPv6 echo where you can get all the
 MvV>> help you need from the IPv6 gurus in Fidonet.

 DC> Yes, I read the echo.  Seems to be mostly a self-congratulatory
 DC> meeting place of mutual celebration/masturbation,

 MvV> Like most of Fidonet...

Not really, it's quite different from most as far as I can see.  I mean, 
what "real purpose" does it serve?  Just a way for folks to congratulate 
each other on having an IPv6 address?  LOL  Very silly.



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